I got the Denon at Uncles in NY. I paid around $800 shipped. I got the Denon because I was it sure it offered adjustable Dolby PLII paramters. Not sure about the Onkyo. Also, I think Denon's amps tend to be a bit more robust and the 3802 has 7 channels of amplification if you need them. The Denon is quite a smooth sounding but powerful piece with very quiet dsp's and analog pass through. I think it's a great piece for the money.