My thanks to all the replies so far on my question(s), it is greatly appreciated. I thought a big part of the price increase between the Denon AVR-2805 & 3805 was mainly for the fancy remote control. The 20 Watt per channel difference won't really amount to anything so I feel comfortable going with the 2805. any more comments from users regarding the VP150 center channel would be appreciated, never heard any serious gripes about the M60's, EP500 or the QS8's. Thanks again everyone.