I think you have to pay significantly more to get a sub that really goes down much lower. What I know is the Outlaw exceeds my needs by a good margin.

The other day I was out in my office working and the emergency broadcast system started up with a warning about tornados for the next two hours. Pretty unusual for California but I grew up in the tornado belt in the midwest so I have all these memories of cowering in the basement waiting for the house to disappear. About an hour after the warning I went accross the breezeway to my workshop. That part of the house is constructed of reinforced concrete and is semi-attached to the wood frame part of the house where the HT is. All of a sudden there was this deep rumbling and shaking of the room like a frieght train approaching the house. I ran outside to see if it was a tornado but the sound diminished. I then realised it was the 11 year old son watching the Incredibles. Its a good thing he doesn't like to play things very loud.

Mark