Yeah,
I saw the smartdraw one, and was going to download that and take a look later today.
I'm in your camp about the pad and pencil, but the one that I am going ot be getting started on has to fit around the back of the house, and is going to have quite a few turns and angles. So I was looking at it more for the lumber list that I was the actual design. In years past I would have been happy to end up with a pile of wood left over for benches and the like, but here we have nowhere for it, so I wanted to come as close as possible.
I'll take a look at the smartdraw.
Thanks,
Tom