Yeah...I know it's hard to visualize...what I'll do tomorrow is make a rough drawing of the room....The room is open to the kitchen...but still the living room is quite big... 30x30 I'm guessing...let me make a sketch and put in the actual deminsions....now this is only for my mom and dad..mind you...so they really don't need the 4k system...or 2k (now) ..but they watch stuff to match so..axiom makes good speakers and their dark cherry fits in with the rest of the room. Thanks for the reply though...