Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Hey, how are are you "crapiophiles" doing?

Is anybody hear going to Vegas for the CES?

Did anyone see game 1 of the World Series last night ?

Hey Craigsub,

What do you have for a source, amplification?

The game was a lot of fun. Bobby Jenks was tossing 100 MPH fastballs, there was good defense, clutch hitting. This series is shaping up as a classic.

The frequency graphs you guys noted are response in a anechoic chamber at least for the Axiom's plots. The Stereophile plots are based on there main listening room. I'd like to see Stereophile plot those same Axiom speakers in that same room to get a real comparison on the other speakers.

This is how your M60 graphs in some of your rooms.
http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Advice&Number=78892&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1
So in a perfectly dead absorbing room you may get a flat frequency curve.

I have tried plotting my old Maggies speakers when I did have them. It was close to more flat in MY room...with a small bass hump at around 70-80hz

Saturn - from the review :

In reply to:

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Fig.3 Magnepan MG3.6/R, anechoic response on-axis at 50", averaged across 30 degrees horizontal window and corrected for microphone response, with the complex sum of the nearfield woofer and midrange responses plotted below 300Hz.

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These were anechoic measurements that Stereophile posted.

http://www.stereophile.com/loudspeakerreviews/303/index6.html

The level mismatch between the midrange diaphragm and the ribbon tweeter is still evident, but I wonder how this will manifest itself at a normal listening distance. (Circumstances dictate that I use a 50" microphone distance for my acoustic measurements.) The logistics of the magazine's relocation to New York meant that I could not perform in-room measurements in BD's listening environment, but I suspect that the MG3.6/R's behavior will be better behaved in a room.

Then the graph you quoted follows this statement and not in a anechoic chamber.

I am not bashing any brand. I love experimenting with diferent type of speakers over the years including Axioms. But I find it ironic the people who do own Axioms are bias themselves and that they bash other brands too.

For instance the comment on the Maggies (and I don't own one now so I really dont care) that the frequency response for the Maggies is not flat in a anechoic chamber proving to you guys that Axioms is superior but the Maggies are not because it is not flat. But then a Axiom owner on this site actually recorded as in home response and it doesn't come out as flat as the anechoic results.
In the end it is really how the speakers perform in your environment. Graphs and measurements are a great start but not the means to say that it brand A is better than brand B because of frequency response charts.

Just to add.

As I have written before in these pages, measuring physically large speakers with in-room quasi-anechoic techniques is in some ways a fruitless task. The usual assumption, that the measuring microphone is very much farther away than the largest dimension of the speaker being measured, is clearly wrong. Yet without access to a large anechoic chamber costing many hundreds of thousands of dollars, in-room measurement techniques are all we have to rely on.—John Atkinson

http://www.stereophile.com/loudspeakerreviews/303/index7.html

The remaining was edited because upon re-reading it, it was too mean ...

Axiom builds an very high quality speaker, especially for the price. You just won't see Axiom owners going into a Magnepan thread and posting BS about Magnepan products.

Are we clear on this ?

CRYSTAL!





It was mean, but accurate.