Re: Building a new computer
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I just built a new machine myself. I am also running XP and can only highly recommend AMD, but if Roger says no, then no!
I also agree with Hashts. If you are not going to overclock the machine then just about any name brand RAM will be fine. PC3200 will be fine and if he is going to play WoW (I'm still single because I'm addicted to it) then I would recommend trying to get 2 gigs of ram. It makes a very big difference when changing zones and entering instances. I still have trouble with Iron Forge (he'll know what I'm talking about), but I don't fall down into things anymore.
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I know about Iron Forge. At this point he simply avoids the place all together. What video card are you using?
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AMD has been hit occasionally with some compatibility issues. I'm not so sure they haven't been caused more by third-party chipsets (SiS in particular) than problems with the procs or their microcode. The result has been that many people have sworn off AMD chips forever, price/performance ratios be damned. I have a mix of Intel and AMD at home. As an aside, I personally am a big fan of Asus motherboards and have gotten burned by MSI MB's in the past (not literally, althought I have had procs go up in smoke before).
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Craig/Hopkinj,
The 64 bit capability for an AMD64 processor is only a secondary tangential benefit. As I stated in my posts, the AMD line offers a price to performance ratio which cannot be beat by Intel. The REAL benefit why AMD64 trounces an Intel is that they include the North Brigde chipset on the CPU die itself. This is exactly why an AMD running at ~2Ghz can outperform an Intel ~3Ghz cpu in most real world tests. Besides, the actual benefits of a 64-bit platform are few and far in between in the consumer arena, but they are getting better. For example, Farcry has extra graphics in their 64-bit version which are not available in the 32-bit binary (last I checked).
I understand Roger's reluctance for AMD, but I've been using them for about 8 years now without any problems what so ever. Me, I still play War3 DoTA
PS-But don't get me started on Opteron vs Xeon...its like comparing Axioms to Bose
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In reply to:
PS-But don't get me started on Opteron vs Xeon...its like comparing Axioms to Bose
I totally agree!!!
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hehe. Lagforge we call it. I purchaed an eVGA Geforce 6800GT from newegg. I would also recommend trying to get Roger to read this forum and heed our advice about AMD. Even if you are not using a 64bit OS they still out perform intel CPUs for gaming. And cheaper! He can get a faster CPU or spend the money on more RAM or a faster Video card! Then he can play WoW and HL2 and F.E.A.R at a good resolution with all the pretties.
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What Royce said. Also look at case reviews; there's actually a lot of differences in them.
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Please don't get me wrong. I'm not saying don't buy the AMD64, I'm saying dont buy the AMD64 just because it a 64bit processor. Go with the best bang for the buck, no matter if thats AMD or Intel. I don't know if you have checked out Toms Hardware or not, but give it a try. www.tomshardware.com
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I spoke with Roger...AMD ain't happening.
We're also on a budget. Those Geforce cards are nice, but dang pricey. Compare the specs to the x800GTO...am I missing something? $179 seems like a bargain for that card. I've found a mother board with has PCI Express 16x, so at least we're helping to future proof that end of things.
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[H]ard|OCP is also a good place to look at reviews and comparisons. Look here for video card comparisons.
and
AnandTech also has very good comparisons and reviews. I'd look there for memory and processor reviews.
Tom's has the best case reviews, or at least the most complete ones. And don't go cheap on the power supply, especially if you're getting a high end video card.
Hard drive, well, get what you want, but make sure it's SATA. And not Maxtor.
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