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Re: Speaker dilemma (On wall)
#117773 12/06/05 08:45 PM
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Oh you are correct, the listening area was not a large area., and thats why I have the system I have.

Re: Speaker dilemma (On wall)
#117774 12/07/05 12:34 AM
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In reply to: She doesn't seem to to care that the shipping is free

It is free but I got additional 5% discount for picking them up myself in Dwight

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#117775 12/07/05 03:11 PM
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It is free but I got additional 5% discount for picking them up myself in Dwight




Sounds like the plans for a road trip to Dwight are formulating. However I'm sure I could purchase another pair of W22s for the bedroom for what it will cost me in gas .

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#117776 12/07/05 03:20 PM
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If you add a 500 or 600 to the list, that could off set the gas cost.

Actually just meeting the Axiom people would be worth the trip in my opinion, its a good idea to fill up with gas before Dwight, no gas pumps in the town.

Re: Speaker dilemma (On wall)
#117777 12/07/05 07:36 PM
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I have been reading this thread with interest. I did some measurements and those M60ti's are going to overwhelm my living room area. Depth is an issue and those M60s are 15" deep and most say need another 18" from the wall. That might be a bit much.

I might have to resign myself to the M22s and count on the EP500 to take care of my bass.

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#117778 12/07/05 07:51 PM
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KC, I think the "depth" issue is somewhat room dependant. In my case, I could not hear any difference beyond maybe 10~12" out from the wall if that helps.

Maybe someone official can chime in here, but my gut feeling is that the distance from the wall is mostly relevant to the mid to lower bass region and maybe the use or lack of a sub (along with your crossover freq) might be an issue as well??


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#117779 12/07/05 07:53 PM
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and most say need another 18" from the wall




18 inches from corner or sidewall.....maybe!

My 60's were 4 to 5 inches from the wall behind with no problem. My 80s are only 8 inches out.

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EP500 to take care of my bass




I'd get the EP500 anyway! It will change the way you listen to music or HT.

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#117780 12/07/05 10:04 PM
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The distance from the rear wall just affects the amount of bass reinforcement. Some people find the mid-bass a bit boomy if the speakers are too close to the wall, but (a) it definitely depends on the room, (b) something like 15" seems to be the largest distance anyone has needed and most run them closer.


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KC,

How big is you room?

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#117782 12/08/05 03:21 PM
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When I was running M2 mains with the SVS sub in a small listening area (one end of a 13x23 room) the results were as good as anything I have heard. I don't think the M2s gave anything up to the larger speakers.

As you stood/sat further back, though, you couldn't play at the volumes you wanted. Getting a "wall of sound" on music CDs was out of the question. That's where the bigger speakers (ie more drivers) really start to shine.




That gives me a lot of confidence hearing that since my room will be approximately those dimensions. Thus, a pair of W22s on the wall with a good sub would be the ideal.

The only issue I've been wrestling with is the "toe-in". Most people set up their floor standing or bookshelf speakers slightly toed-in for the best sound. Since I would like to use the on-walls for music as well, I am contemplating building the walls with an angle to simulate the toe-in procedure. AFAIK, the drivers are not able to swivel on the W-series.

Just me being anal.

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