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Another confession
#126853 02/06/06 12:20 PM
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Guys,

I should make a confession, since I don't want you to gang up on 302, he received the Denon from me. He likes what the Denon has done for his system. I can live without it. He is my son. We have been having a friendly debate for quite some time. That debate concerns the qualities of these two brand of speakers. He is certain that the PSB image line is superior to the Axioms. I've been hanging on because I don't really know. I am looking for an amp/M22ti combination that I actually like. I have tried to believe that there isn't a difference between amp manufacturers, but I am having a problem with that. Please be kind to 302, he's a righteous dude and the apple of my eye.

Bruce

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#126854 02/06/06 02:40 PM
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Hi Bruce!

Ah yes,...the M45! I remember discussing that concept, oh...'bout a year ago!

So that's how your Son got the number! Cool.

Tell him then; as I already have: that He's more than welcome here, and to join right in!

Even more so; now that we know where he's coming from!
Rich.

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#126855 02/06/06 02:46 PM
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Bruce, If I offended I apologize. Your son is most welcome here. I just didn't want anyone coming here seeking information to be unintentionally misled.


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Re: Another confession
#126856 02/06/06 02:50 PM
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Quote from Alan on page 1 of this thread.

"The Axioms are comparable to the PSB Stratus series. The Axiom M60ti or M80ti, for example, would be comparable to the PSB Stratus Gold or Stratus Silver, and a lot less costly.
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Re: Axiom Vs PSB
#126857 02/06/06 08:47 PM
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Sorry if I affended anyone, if didn't mean to. I didn't realize that you only needed 3 inches of clearance for the m60's. I have more than that now. What size room are the M60's designed for. I just listen to my dads HT whoes and Thats where I got the idea of the M60's need a lot of room.

I was just stating what I've seen and I've never talked HT on the internet before other than SACD. AVS troll huh, getting defensive are we. I've never heard a pair of M60's just m22's. They are not for me.

BTW, the midrange ones I was talking about were the M40's not the M45's, sorry. The PSB T45's suck ass, they are in the same line but sound more like a bookshelf then the tower.

Shoes, your right. Speakers are not shoes, how observant of you. just joking! I just meant that different people like different speakers and you need to try them out for yourself. I don't like that internet thing because you can't compare different speakers side by side. That is how I found that I like the canadian sound better. Plus, listening to klipsch is like having a pen stuck in your ear.

The M60's are tempting, but I told myself not to spend anymore money for a while on my HT System. If the room size for the M60's is what you say it is I would say that bruce should dump the m22's for some M60's but thats just me.

One last thing, there are some small speakers that will beat the crap out of my towers. I would just have to sell my kidneys to buy them. I rather have my kidneys.


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Re: Axiom Vs PSB
#126858 02/06/06 09:55 PM
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Hi 302!

Ever been to the AVS forum? There are a few guys,(trolls)over there with their own agendas who find it the greatest of fun to trash Axiom incessently! It can either be ammusing or annoying depending on your outlook!

HT can be lots of fun too! And comparing internet speakers side by side is easy if you want to try more than one internet company at a time and don't mind return shipping costs for the looser!....or LooserS!! But that can get pretty pricy!

Canadian sound?

...can't get much more Canadian than Axiom!!Remember; Ian; along with Paul, and a few others, are the co-writers of the Canadian speaker manifesto!!

I know not all Canadians sound the same, just depends on which dialect you prefer; eh?

When you talk about the M22s and M40s, you are discussing the two speakers in the Axiom line that are about as far apart from each other as you can possibly get!! The M22s(andM2s)are the most accurate but lightest/thinnest sounding. While the(discontinued)M40 was the warmest, most "tube"like sounding of the bunch!

I know you've probably gone over this before with your Dad, but I'll try to give "MY"(quick)take on it:

Bookshelf speakers.

M2 and M22; Take-no-prisoners accurate, Tell it like it is, no appologies!! M22 has more bass than M2.

M3; Neutral. Friendly though! Nobody dosen't like these guys! Will not annoy unless the recording is neigh unlistenable from the git-go!Good music sounds really good; great music sounds, uh..really good.

Floorstanders:

M40 and M50. M40; warmer than M3s but tons more bass, M50 slightly more foreward than M3s but tons more bass. Not quite as much bass and not quite as foreward sounding or as accurate as the...

M60s,.. and M80s: See M22 and M2. M60 has tons more bass, M80 has tons more bass and the abillity to rupture your eardrums at 75ft while you're saying "Wow, that's clean"!!

Ok....now, if you're curious, you can spend lots of fun time going through the products pages of this web site and all the reviews published.

And even if you aren't interested in Axiom, well,...sometimes it helps during a friendly argument if you know more about: the "enemy"

Have fun
Rich.



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#126859 02/06/06 10:44 PM
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302,

You will discover that Rich knows alot about HT, and he never says s#&% a$$ and c@!p.

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Thanks for the Info Rich. This almost makes me want to try some M60's. Now only if I had $800.

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Re: Axiom Vs PSB
#126861 02/07/06 12:40 AM
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Ask your dad for it.


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#126862 02/07/06 12:44 AM
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>>> Ask your dad for it. <<<

Yea, that's what I'd do ... I bet he's 'righteous'.


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