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Re: Basic Denon Setup Question.
#136202 04/22/06 12:35 AM
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correct, but I thought you were going to try adjusting the manual EQ frequencies versus adjusting the overall dB levels to see if there was a differance? So your saying your adjusting both?


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Re: Basic Denon Setup Question.
#136203 04/22/06 01:17 AM
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i was just responding to your post about running the auto setup. i was just saying that i have already done that.

i have since listened to a few shows and movies and such and found that there dosent seem to be much difference between bumping up the overall volume of the center or just bumping up the different frequencies. i think i will just put them back to 0 and just keep the overall volume on the center higher by about 3 db. that seems to work best.

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Thanks for testing that out Jay, now I don't have to.


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#136205 04/22/06 05:40 AM
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You guys know whats funny. After alot of testing tonight on movies and different programs and so on. I find that setting the reciever to stereo sounds better then Dolby Digital! LOL. The human voice comming from the M60's just sounds better to me then it does from the VP150. I actully enjoy regular old stereo better then I do Dolby Digital. Have I gone mad or is anyone else like this?

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I occasionally with cycle through some of the other modes on my Denon receiver. For example, 5 or 7 stereo modes so all my speakers are getting the same signal is interesting at times. Also, the Denon's "Widescreen" mode is interesting as it is similar to PLIIx in that it takes a 2channel or 5.1, and creates a 7 channel experience simulating a theater.

For movies, I doubt I'll ever replace DTS or DD modes for Stereo as you would be missing out on the surround effects, but doesn't hurt to try it. Does your receiver have "Direct" or "Pure Direct" modes? Those should sound even better than Stereo mode.


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#136207 04/22/06 01:47 PM
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I have direct and pure direct but I dont like the sound of either. Stereo mode just has the most real feel and sound to my ears. Maybe im nuts.

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There is not way if you watch a movie decoded in 5.1 or above, like Finding Nemo or whatever, that it would sound better in Stereo Mode versus DD, DTS, PLiiX or whatever.

For starters, your taking the surrounds out of the picture, which is the whole basis of Home Theater. Yeah the center can be phantomed by the two mains, but will never give you the same purpose as decoded on the DVD's.

I think your setup is wrong somewhere, not sure. Sorry I can't help, I'll never get rid of my 7.1 setup, maybe upgrade someday.

ps: bring on 10.1


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Re: Basic Denon Setup Question.
#136209 04/23/06 02:02 PM
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Check your pm Sirquack. The problem is not in the setup.

I guess im not as much into surround as I am in hearing voice dialog and a very accurate sound. I like good sound very much and I like sound effects as much as anyone but im not willing to make a trade off in terms off voice and what is being said in the movie.

I watched a bunch of TV yesterday with the reciever set to stereo mode and for the first time in a long time I could hear the dialog very clearly while explosions and loud noises were happening in the backround. The M60's do a damn good job with the sound effects.

One thing that is puzzling to me is that when I set my cable box to output Dolby Digital sound and then set my reciever to stereo mode, I get a signal sent to my subwoofer. BUT, if I set my cable box to HDMI or 2 channel only sound I get no signal sent to my subwoofer. Not sure whats going on with that?

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I'd check that cable box manual and see what happens on the different modes. I'd also check your receiver manual to see what happens with the differnt modes and the input mode signal.

Some times these interactions get a little complicated.


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If you remove the surround speakers from the equation and watch a movie done in 5.1, the surround effects will not be rerouted to the mains. The only way this is possible is if you are using one of the DSP modes on the AVR to simulate the surround effects. This would be like going back in time to pre-pro logic days.


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