Denon 2910 VS Xbox 360?
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Some explanation: I own an Xbox 360 with the HD DVD drive. Picture quality is very good(DVD and HD DVD) in comparison to my only other DVD player experience; A crappy $200 Sony HT in-a-box DVD player/reciever combo. It's been heavenly since I've purchased my 60/500 system in september, but of course, after some time when one becomes accustomed to such superior sound I couldn't help but notice how harsh the sound was of almost every live action film I've seen. I can't watch a movie over +3.0db without it hurting my ears -- HD movies included. And I am by no means sensitive to loud noise. I called Axiom about this and they suggested that it very well could be the fact that the Xbox 360 is not a dedicated DVD player. My remedy to this would be to go out and purchase the Denon 2910(or another recommendation at that price point -- I don't like purchasing merely "good" products). But I would like to feel confident before purchasing such an expensive piece of equipment. Here are several questions:
How significant are DVD players in the quality of sound coming through my speakers? If so would the Denon 2910 represent a significant step up in sound(and picture) quality from the 360? Is a good HDMI cable worth purchasing? Would a digital signal provide an audible(and visible) difference? Would a quality pre amp help at all with my system? (Epic 60/500 7.1(M2 back surrounds)
And one last question not exactly related to the above; Would it be possible to integrate a high end center channel to replace my Vp150? I can't help but feel like the VP150 can't keep up no matter what I try. Would an M22 or even an M60 be a step up as a center channel? One of those RBH Sound Center channels look might tempting.
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Is it possible that your receiver is the culprit? Perhaps it is running out of juice at +3 and distorting the sound...which is causing the harshness that you hear.
Are you using the HTIB receiver to power the speakers?
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I second the question, what are you using to drive the speakers.
You are not using a digital cable for the audio? Digital is a better signal in my books, especially for movies. I would also suspect that the Xbox has a somewhat weaker signal output than a stand alone player. I noticed a huge difference moving from one brand to another brand DVD player, went from near 0 on my Denon avr to a -20.
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I am using a Yamaha V2600. I purchased it when I bought my Axioms.
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Where's your center channel located?
I used to have mine mounted with an FMB above my tv, I've since moved it to directly below the screen on a stand and the sound is much much better.
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My center channel is located on top of my television. Would it not be possible to use a high end center channel of another company?
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It would be possible, but I don't think that that is where your problem lies, and I'm almost certain it's not in the source (ie, the 360). You've outlined several different problems here--harsh sound, VP150 "not keeping up," and having your volume at +3.0dB. What do you mean by the last bit? On my receiver, a volume level (not a speaker level) of +3 dB would mean that it was outrageously loud; almost at the maximum volume the receiver is capable of (+10 dB or +15 dB). Perhaps your amplification is not sufficient?
Placement is always critical (and very frequently overlooked) in audio. Play around with it; that could help you out a lot.
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It would be possible, but I don't think that that is where your problem lies, and I'm almost certain it's not in the source (ie, the 360). You've outlined several different problems here--harsh sound, VP150 "not keeping up," and having your volume at +3.0dB. What do you mean by the last bit? On my receiver, a volume level (not a speaker level) of +3 dB would mean that it was outrageously loud; almost at the maximum volume the receiver is capable of (+10 dB or +15 dB). Perhaps your amplification is not sufficient?
Placement is always critical (and very frequently overlooked) in audio. Play around with it; that could help you out a lot.
Amplification? I was under the knowledge that the Yamaha would have no problem powering my axioms. Could the wires not be connected correctly? I connected them with bare wire. Would banana plugs make a difference?
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After reading this I decided to do a direct comparison between my Xbox 360 and my Denon 3910 for DVD's. I found there was little or no difference in sound quality between the two on my system, the Denon provided a slightly better picture, possibly due to the HDMI and upscaling to 720p. My guess would be that your receiver or placement is the problem.
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How loud do you have this turned up?
No, changing to banana plugs would make no difference at all.
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