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Re: EP500...Lack of base?
Ken.C #156433 01/20/07 05:40 PM
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So this happens across the board on all inputs?

Is the test tone generated by the receiver or a DVD/CD?




A little hard to describe. Not necessarily on all inputs, but there is a lack of the lower freq.

The tone was from the receiver.

I wonder if it isn't so much the speakers, but the DVD / Receiver connection? Or perhaps the receiver itself?

I have the DVD hooked up via a digital coaxial cable. There isn't much to it, but I wonder if something between the connections is jacked up...

The funny thing is I seemed to have more bass with the plain tv speakers. But I may just be remembering wrong there.

Re: EP500...Lack of bass?
Hassman #156434 01/20/07 05:48 PM
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OK, does your receiver have a little display with all the speakers on it? Are you sure that the sub is set to be on on all inputs? Mine was off on one or two inputs for awhile.

Didn't notice because of the M80s for awhile, but...

In any case, check the phase on the sub. Lightly touch the surround of the driver and see if it's moving during those heavy bass scenes.

With a digital connection, you should be getting everything, unless you're, say, in pure direct (or the like) where it takes the two channels from the CD and puts them exclusively on the 2 front speakers. Even then, you should have a fairly significant amount of bass from the M60s.


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Re: EP500...Lack of bass?
Ken.C #156435 01/20/07 06:15 PM
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Have you tried the "bass crawl" technique for positioning the sub? Put the sub in your primary listening position, play some bass heavy music, and crawl around until you find a spot that has good bass (tight, clear, loud, etc.). Then switch positions, you back in the chair and the sub where you found the good bass. You should now have the good bass you heard in the primary listeing spot. Placement is crucial, as I found out, since there are a few dead spots in my room where almost all the bass cancels (which sounds like your situation).

Just to ask a dumb question, is the green light 'on' on the back of the sub? If its yellow or not on at all, then something's not giving it power.


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Re: EP500...Lack of base?
Hassman #156436 01/20/07 06:30 PM
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The funny thing is I seemed to have more bass with the plain tv speakers.




That is funny. Are the main L/R in phase? That'll kill your bass if they aren't.


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Re: EP500...Lack of base?
real80sman #156437 01/20/07 06:36 PM
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Yes, are you sure you have the positive-positive and negative-negative on the speaker hookups? Also, you are using the Sub Pre-out to Line in on your sub using a coax cable correct?


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Re: EP500...Lack of bass?
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Have you tried the "bass crawl" technique for positioning the sub? Put the sub in your primary listening position, play some bass heavy music, and crawl around until you find a spot that has good bass (tight, clear, loud, etc.). Then switch positions, you back in the chair and the sub where you found the good bass. You should now have the good bass you heard in the primary listeing spot. Placement is crucial, as I found out, since there are a few dead spots in my room where almost all the bass cancels (which sounds like your situation).




Ooo, good idea. I'll try this.

And yes, the green light is on.

Re: EP500...Lack of base?
Hassman #156439 01/20/07 07:37 PM
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Is the test tone generated by the receiver or a DVD/CD?



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The tone was from the receiver.





Try one of the Disney DVDs with THX Optimizer (Most recent Disney DVDs have this like Pirates or Pixar films like Cars, Incredibles)- or a calibration DVD like DVE or Avia and see if the test tone from the DVD source sounds close enough to the receiver tones.

If not, then you may have a problem with the receiver understanding the source signal from the DVD player. If so, then see this post for help.


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Re: EP500...Lack of base?
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Mark, welcome. Despite the lengthy discussion, there doesn't seem to be anything specific said about how you calibrated the sub level. Whether you let YPAO do it, which should be fine, or did it manually, there's a possibility that the 2600 sub out isn't putting enough voltage into the EP500 amp to keep it "awake". My own EP500 level setting was about 7 o'clock after calibration(you have yours around 9), which made my receiver put out more voltage than if the sub's level control was set higher. Try calibrating with the sub level control around 6-7.


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Re: EP500...Lack of base?
JohnK #156441 01/21/07 02:39 PM
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I just wanted to update everyone and say thank you.

As it turns out, it was a little bit of everything. I'm almost embarrassed over here...

Basically, I started fresh. Reset defaults, turned down the subs gain to about 6 or 7, let the receiver auto configure, double checked it with my new nifty radio shack meter, and low and behold wonderful bass tones were heard throughout.

And the main listening position being in an acoustical dead spot didn't help. It isn't terrible, but you can hear the difference if I move a few feet in any direction.

Time to find optional speaker placement now for my box of a room.

Thank you again to everyone. There is a really great community here. Thumbs up.

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It's good to hear you got things figured out, enjoy.


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