Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater New here and to Axiom...help me place some QS8's

Hi Mark,

I have a room of similar proportions but slightly smaller than yours and found that the QS8s sound best to me near the back corners with the tweeters parallel to the back and side walls. This puts them about 135 degrees back from the center of the screen which is a little farther than usually recommended. They not only sound better here from the sweet spot but also it gets them further away from the ears of those sitting on the ends of the futon.

I also noticed that in my room they sounded the same on just the stands or elevated about two more feet when I was using a flat bed for seating. However, when I got a futon and put the back up to use it as a couch they sounded better when up higher at about 6 feet.

If there is any way for you to experiment before finishing the wiring or leaving some extra wire to experiment afterward I recommend it.

The reality is you will find it difficult to put them anywhere that they wont sound great.

Dean

I am now hanging them on the ceiling with the axiom brackets...I got proper waf as well lol.

I dont know that I am going to be able to play with placement before. I can have the wire sitting in the attic and I can pop through anywhere I need. I just dont want to mount and un-mount them a bunch of times putting holes in my brand new ceiling.

Anyone know how those sxiom brackets mount??

they mount with 2 bolts.

Having the wiring in the attic is the best approach, I would recommend this, it would also avoid mistakes with placement for sure.

-Hutz

Do these 2 bolts go into the drywall on the ceiling, into the studs, OR do I have to put a cross brace between 2 ceiling studs for the bolts to go through?

you should put them into a stud.

I wouldn't trust plain drywall. You should be able to find a suitable spot with your existing joists.

-Hutz

I also wanted to avoid mounting and un-mounting them since it would be a hassle moving them to try other locations. I just threw together a couple temporary stands out of plywood and 2x4s for less than $20 U.S. You could even make the stands to simulate the joists and use the axiom brackets to mount them to the stand. Then just run some temporary wires across the room wile you test some locations.

I know if I was in your shoes I’d want to just get it done and start enjoying and showing off your setup. With any of the placement options you are considering they will sound great. However, for only a few bucks and a day or two you might get some peace of mind if the extra effort is worth it, or if you just like to tinker and can get away with it.

If it went into just drywall I would have used those moly type screws...but would rather wood!

My ceiling will be 11'...if I do some plywood stands they wont be that tall...that wouldnt sound the same as all the way up on the ceiling I would think.

Think ducktape would work hahahahaha

Thats just a joke.

In general if they are on the side of the seating as far appart as possible and aimed at the sweet spot as much as possible they should sound real good? They will be getting 200w@8ohm so probably a little more sonce they are 6.

Yall think 200w would fry my b&w 602s2 and cc6 center? Thats what I will be running before I can upgrade to the m80's and vp150.

Mark, keep in mind that the speakers aren't going to be "getting" 200 watts; that may be the maximum power capability of the amplifier, but at a comfortably loud average listening level the speakers will be getting about 1 watt. On brief peaks they'll draw much more than that, of course, but not likely close to 200 watts. There should be no problem with your B&Ws. By the way, it might be a good idea to see if the Onkyo alone does the job with the Axioms, before actually buying the 200 watt units.

I would think they are getting more than just 1 watt The amp I want to run is the outlaw audio monoblock amps.....5 of them for now useing the onkyo as the preamp.

I am sure the onkyo's 85x5 (old TXDS 676) could run them but I want more power and new toys lol. I dont know if the onkyo would like the 4ohms of the m80's tho. I want to up the whole system and will do it in parts.

NOLAGT,

Let's take the M80's 95dB in-room response rating as an example. That number means the speaker is capable of generating a sound that measures 95dB in amplitude -- very loud -- when supplied with only 1 Watt of power. The measurement is typically taken by a microphone placed 1 meter away from the front of the speaker.

Watts are not used unless they are called upon. A 1000 watt amp and a 50 watt amp are equally capable of creating deafeningly loud levels in an average sized room when connected to most Axiom speakers. I definitely see the appeal of having a beast of an amp to power your speakers, especially if you normally listen to music or movies at levels that approach the hearing damage range, but for the most part, extra watts are just extra watts.