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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
Hutzal #163252 03/30/07 03:49 PM
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Try the Canare quad star. That actually works pretty well as far as lying there.


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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
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I suggest you experiment with toeing in your fronts. Also, try flipping your centre upside down although you may not need to do this depending on where you are sitting. Finally, if possible, experiment with bringing the fronts out from the wall. You'll experience less diffraction and therefore better clarity/detail. You can always put them back against the wall when you are finished listening. This would be a good reason to stay away from spikes.

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Eric,

That is one fine setup you've got there. It looks great to me. The QS placement should work well as they look like you have centered them to the seating area of the room. I agree that you could pull the mains a little more into the room (and adjust distances accordingly in your pre/receiver), but it wouldn't need to be very far, maybe 8-12 inches or so? Just try it as suggested and do whatever sounds best. I think you've got the center oriented the right way, but maybe prop something small under the back edge to aim it slightly down at the listeners ears. Maybe you already have done this as it is hard to tell from the photos. I'm sure it sounds great as is, all the other tweaking is best done over time anyway.

Enjoy and thanks for sharing the great photos.


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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
dllewel #163255 03/31/07 06:01 AM
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I have the mains spread out 8 feet apart and its 10 inches out from the wall. I'm sitting 10 to 11 feet away from the screen/speakers. I'm not sure how much I should toe in but I have about 1 inch toe in (if you measure from wall to speaker one end is 10 inches, other outside end is 11 inches from wall). I decided not to use the rubber stopper ball things for my QS8 speakers and I sticked them to the back (4 spread across) of the VP150 to aim it closer down to the listeners. The QS8s are spread out about 13 feet apart and about 8 feet high. I could have spread that one QS8 but its an open hallway there and I wanted the sound to remain in the room and not going out into the hallway and there is no side wall there for the sound to reflect back anyway. Now just need some furniture, speaker wire, video and audio calibration.


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Looks like this thread went from choosing speaker wire to speaker placement. lol


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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
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I love these speaker wire threads…..too funny. They are great entertainment on a rainy day with nothing better to do.

I have no opinion one way or the other about sound degradation other than I can’t tell a difference. I’ve got Mono-price, Blue Jeans, Home Depot and Axiom speaker wire. They all work just fine without any difference in SQ as far as I can tell. I was leery about Mono-price as cheap as they are, but their stuff sure looks and feels like it’s very well made. I’ve got some of their HDMI cables that blew me away with how well made they appear (to me).

I did have a comment in regards to your surround speaker locations though. I’m assuming that you have a 5.1 set up?? If so, have you considered moving the Q’s to the side walls? I think you may like them better if you move them just slightly further back from perpendicular to your main seating area, and about six feet from the floor. If you have a 7.1 set up and the Q’s in the picture are the backs, I think you will like them positioned a little closer together. About six feet apart. I’m not certain, but I believe the sound will be more uniform from them if you were to move them both over the arch verses one over and one on the wall. I think that having one over the arch and one not, may make them sound a bit different seeing how one will not have a reflective surface. I say this only because I had a similar situation and could tell a difference. I ended up moving one of my SrB speakers.

For toe in on your mains, a friend that frequents this place once told me the best way to set that up is to aim them at an imaginary point about five feet directly behind the main listening position and make sure that the drivers are not equal distance from the side and rear wall. I’ve had good luck with that advice.

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aim them at an imaginary point about five feet directly behind the main listening position and make sure that the drivers are not equal distance from the side and rear wall.




This is how I have my mains set up, works for me as well.


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Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
Wid #163259 03/31/07 03:09 PM
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Same here Wid, actually I think I have mine aimed about 2ft behind the primary position. Soundstage and imaging are ideal. I need to measure the distance from the rear/side walls again since I got my 80's.


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LIke Mike, I find speaker wire threads to be a nice entertainement break.

This thread and this thread usually help these conversations along.

Re: Speaker cable....which one would you get?
ereed #163261 04/01/07 06:09 AM
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Here are couple more pics of the system so far. Forget my horrible painting (brush strokes) and focus on the equipment and speakers. How is it so far?
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What component rack are you using? I am currently looking for one and like the looks of what you have set up there.

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