Re: Why do my QS8s sound better than my VP150?
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I've got the VP100 center and it also sound different than the M60's and QS4's on test tones. However my tweeter is working, but I am actually experiencing something different that bothers me. I get almost a scratchy sound in a lot of dialog. To minimize this I have to set my crossover for the center at 120. Anything below this and dialog is just bad. I'm seriously considering sending it back to be checked out.
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I have heard that scratchy sound before. It's either something wrong with the voice coil or you're playing WAAAAY too loud. See if you can stand close and identify which driver the noise is coming from, then give Axiom a call.
I bet you'll find the noise comes from just one of the midrange/woofer drivers, making it easy to fix.
Last edited by bridgman; 04/13/07 01:14 AM.
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I have heard that scratchy sound before. It's either something wrong with the voice coil or you're playing WAAAAY too loud
See if you can stand close and identify which driver the noise is coming from, then give Axiom a call. I bet it's just one driver.
It does this at any volume level on normal dialog.
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I just thought I would post an update.
Both the replacement M80 and VP150 have arrived. Both boxes one again looked like they had been through hell. The 150 had a large tear in the side. When I first got it, I thought "here we go again".
Fortunately, neither speaker has any asthetic damage on them. I don't know where all this damage is occurring in the shipping process, but I think it reasonable from the standpoint of the company and the customer to expect a package to arrive without any major physical breaches. The VP150 had a good 6 or so inch tear on one of the sides. It would seem the shipping company could do with some improvements in their process.
In any case, the speakers are in my living room and look great. I can't wait for the new Emo amp to get here so I can listen to more stuff in full surround.
** Edit ** I just wanted to add that I believe that Axiom is providing adequate packaging with these speakers. Under 'normal' shipping ocnditions there would be no issues. I believe these recent shipments have had 'abnormal' amounts of abuse in the mail.
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Bhull, glad things worked out for you. Shipping damage is no fun to deal with. Thankfully there was no harm done to the speakers.
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I work work for one of the shipping companies Axiom uses and it is a miracle the freight makes it through with out more damge to it than it receives. WE are currently cramming 300+ packages onto a 16' cargo area. The conveyor lines get backed up and boxes literally get pushed off the line to clear the jam. I have seen boxes fall from our overhead conveyors because of a jam(no one touched them to mak them fall) before the lines were stopped. In my opinion anyone who ships needs to pack their stuff to fall from this 12' height not 3-4 as they get told.
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I work work for one of the shipping companies Axiom uses and it is a miracle the freight makes it through with out more damge to it than it receives. WE are currently cramming 300+ packages onto a 16' cargo area. The conveyor lines get backed up and boxes literally get pushed off the line to clear the jam. I have seen boxes fall from our overhead conveyors because of a jam(no one touched them to mak them fall) before the lines were stopped. In my opinion anyone who ships needs to pack their stuff to fall from this 12' height not 3-4 as they get told.
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Unfortunatly, that's a fact with all shipping companies doing any large amount of volume, there are UPS facilities that push 50,000 packages an hour through their systems, if they process 160,000 packages and only have 3 or 4 major damages (meaning parcels that are destroyed) that is an acceptable % to them, unfortunatly there are a greater amount of damaged items that go out because the boxes are still intact. That's why when I ship I package the stuff like it's going into a war zone.
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I hear you there. When I boxed up my SVS for shipment to Texas a few months ago, I didn't have the original packing contents, so I had to get creative. (After all, I didn't want negative audiogon feedback on my first transaction!) While my outer box may not have been beefy enough, I put so many layers of protection inside that box you probably could have stabbed it with a Ginsu knife multiple times without damaging the sub. Drop kicks from 12' are a different story, though.
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I have seen boxes fall from our overhead conveyors because of a jam(no one touched them to mak them fall) before the lines were stopped. In my opinion anyone who ships needs to pack their stuff to fall from this 12' height not 3-4 as they get told.
This would be completely consistent with the damage that was on the M80. I couldn't believe a fall from even 4' would cause what happened since the corner was completely packed in the foam. From 12' however, seeing the shipped weight is like 50 or so pounds for each speaker would definitely do it. You could tell the thing was dropped right on its corner.
I understand things happen when you are pushing that volume of packages through, but it would be nice if they reported and returned packages that have been wrecked.
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