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Re: Having seconds thoughts....need advice!
jakewash #165424 04/16/07 08:37 PM
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Jason,

Before you go buying M60s, make sure you hear a decent sub calibrated with the rest of the system. When listening to movies in my room at -10db, you don't even know that all that sound is coming from a little bookshelf. The EP500 and the M22s are seriously big competition for floorstanders (for movies anyway, and music IMHO).


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Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
MarkSJohnson #165425 04/17/07 12:01 AM
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I have to laugh when I think about how far I've come in just a few short months when I decided we needed a new music and HT system. From starting in the big box stores listening to salesmen trying to sell me entry level crap, to a high end audio store, to buying really good stuff online after finding sites like this one and products like Axiom, Outlaw, etc. It is definitely a disease, and this forum is like reverse therapy!

Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
Dave1009 #165426 04/17/07 12:08 AM
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Dave, most of us have gone the same route. We're just trying to save you time and money. It's a lot easier to start with something good and add to it, rather than start with something bad and having to replace it.


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Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
St_PatGuy #165427 04/17/07 12:23 AM
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I appreciate all of the advice offered on this site. Who knows what I would have ended up with?
Now I know there's a whole different level out there and I'm hooked.
Anyone who uses a sub with the 60's have any input? Is that needed in 2200 sq ft room?

Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
Dave1009 #165428 04/17/07 12:43 AM
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>>Anyone who uses a sub with the 60's have any input? Is that needed in 2200 sq ft room?

2200 sq ft or 2200 cu ft ? Just checking...

For music I would say a sub is optional. I still often turn the sub off when listening to music. If your room really is 2200 sq ft, though, I would probably leave the sub turned on so the speakers don't have to work so hard.


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Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
bridgman #165429 04/17/07 01:13 AM
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Sorry, 2200 cubic ft.

Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
Dave1009 #165430 04/17/07 07:55 PM
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Quote:

I appreciate all of the advice offered on this site. Who knows what I would have ended up with?
Now I know there's a whole different level out there and I'm hooked.
Anyone who uses a sub with the 60's have any input? Is that needed in 2200 sq ft room?




My room is 15' x 17'x 8' (1/2 of one side of my room opens up into a 10'x 8' x 8' area.

I thought my M60s were a little lacking in the lows. That is more of my personal tastes however. I'm a big fan of 70s music which is full of poor recorded stuff ... Axiom being so accurate you could really tell the difference between a well recorded CD and old 70s stuff.

Unfortunately the first thing I put on my axioms was an old Kinks CD. I was very unimpressed, even disappointed. Then I calibrated the system and put on good quality recorded CDs and was blown away.

Still I wanted a bit more bass for my 70s stuff and it wasn't until I got my HSU 2.3 subwoofer that my old stuff really started to sound good to me. Not to mention the movies sounded WAY better.

People talk about the M22s requiring a subwoffer, but for my personal tastes, the M60s aslo require it.

Re: Having seconds thoughts....I did it!
KC23 #165431 04/17/07 10:20 PM
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Well folks, after all of the input, advice and personal debate, I called Noreen at Axiom and changed my order so...the 60's ship May 1!! I'm sure the 22's would have been great but if this is my only audio life for awhile, why not live it big? No regrets, no returns!

Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
Dave1009 #165432 04/17/07 10:31 PM
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Quote:

I have to laugh when I think about how far I've come in just a few short months when I decided we needed a new music and HT system. From starting in the big box stores listening to salesmen trying to sell me entry level crap, to a high end audio store, to buying really good stuff online after finding sites like this one and products like Axiom, Outlaw, etc. It is definitely a disease, and this forum is like reverse therapy!




Same here, started with just an "idea" that mabey I should buy some good speakers (since I love music etc).

When we bought a house the basement was screaming for a home theatre, the wife gave the go-ahead, I haven't looked back since.

I love the Axiom sound...my M2s are on order, that will make me an owner of the whole bookshelf collection from Axiom...am I obsessed?


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Re: Having seconds thoughts....upgraditis
bridgman #165433 04/19/07 08:28 PM
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>>> For music I would say a sub is optional. I still often turn the sub off when listening to music. If your room really is 2200 sq ft, though, I would probably leave the sub turned on so the speakers don't have to work so hard.

Wouldn't it depend on the song as well? I have 16'x13'x9' room with M60s as main and EP500 (overkill I know ). On some music I listen to, having the sub on didn't make too much of a difference if at all but on some others it made a pretty significant difference. Regardless, I keep the sub on all the time now though cause I'm too lazy to turn it on/off everything I switch from watching movie to listening music

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