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What does going with the higher memory options resolve, I see the Stratos Extreme has 180,000.
Randy, puh-lease, bigger numbers are always better! 
Really, I don't know what benefit the higher numbers have.
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Capacitors are energy reservoirs that store the necessary power your amplifier will need to punch those big bass notes while limiting clipping. They store power during intervals when it is not required, which is most of the time, and release it when a short term transient demand exceeds what is available from the amplifier's power supply.
The capacitance is a secondary concern. Look at power, distortion and current capability (impedance). What are you thinking? Powering the M80s and VP150 from the Stratos and all else from the Denon? The mono extreme should be able to pump 450WRMS into the M80. Check with Odyssey. A class A/AB design means low distortion, relatively simple electronics but only about 70% efficient at best. It should sound very nice!
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Give Klaus a call Trust me. You'll be glad you did. Oh yeah, and have your credit card handy. seriously though, more capacitance gives you more current capability. Go over to the Odyssey forum on audiocircle and read up on all you want to know. I believe the Stratos mono extremes also come with dual plitron transformers. We're talking some serious muscle here http://www.audiocircle.com/circles/index.php?board=10.0
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Capacitors are energy reservoirs that store the necessary power your amplifier will need to punch those big bass notes while limiting clipping. They store power during intervals when it is not required, which is most of the time, and release it when a short term transient demand exceeds what is available from the amplifier's power supply.
The capacitance is a secondary concern. Look at power, distortion and current capability (impedance). What are you thinking? Powering the M80s and VP150 from the Stratos and all else from the Denon? The mono extreme should be able to pump 450WRMS into the M80. Check with Odyssey. A class A/AB design means low distortion, relatively simple electronics but only about 70% efficient at best. It should sound very nice!
That makes sense. Thanks Mojo!
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Brandon, with your Odyssey's can you give me an idea of the levels you can achieve with your 80's. I'm not sure how big your room is, or how loud you have turned them up. As you know my issues with the Emotiva shutting down at 100dB's from 12ft away, and the Emotiva is rated to have more power than the Odyssey?
Of course, Emotiva says my RS meter is not a reliable tool for SPL, and is good only for basic setup/calibration.
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Haloeb, thats some real nice looking setup you have, would love to have a listen to that gear, very nice job!!
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As you know my issues with the Emotiva shutting down at 100dB's from 12ft away
Randy, I need to say this again. We don't really know if it was 100dB or 120dB. The Radio Shack meter isn't that accurate in the higher dB ranges.
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Well it even appears in Gene's article about the MPS-1 that the soft clipping limiter was introducing itself prematurely. So your saying for easy listening type music with no dynamics, when the meter is reading say 95-100dB's it is not accurate? Why on earth does it have selectors to well beyond 120dB's. Now the reading I've done says it is good for 5-6dB jumps, that in reality are like 10-15dB's.
It is pretty bad the these efficient 80's that use 1 watt to achieve 95dB at 1 meter can't be pushed very far then. Maybe I should have kept my 60's, never had this problem.
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We are just sitting by the sidelines waiting for you to get a class A/B amp and tell us if it works. The 30 day return on any of the suggested (Odessey, Outlaw, ATI, Rotel, etc) amps would let you test and tell "us" what we are all waiting to hear. That you have solved the problem. We love to spend your money for our knowledge. 
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Just had a wonderful visit with Klaus, learned a history of the Heritage of the Germany Symphonic line going back 20 years, and that the guts in the Odyssey amps are truely remarkable, not basic electronics. I'll keep you all posted.  He actually is pretty familiar with the 80's, they have 20+ customers driving 80's with different variations of their amps. Its all about current baaaaaby.
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