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#166871 04/28/07 12:55 AM
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Ok, I'm really close to pulling the trigger on a pair of Axiom M80's Boston Cherry from Factory Outlet in the next couple of days. This is a google sketchup plan of my house that is currently being painted. The cabinet you see will hold the television. Eventually I am thinking about mounting a 42 inch flat screen above the fireplace. I was wondering what your opinions were on the placement of this setup. Is there too much clutter for the speakers to breath? Do think they will sound too bassy and toed in too much? I've thinking alot about the layout and this seems to be the best I can think of. I'm 22 years old and graduating next month from college and am moving into this house. 1800 sq feet, 1969, hardwood floors. Also I am pretty certain I am going to go with the Emotiva LMC-1, LPA-1 combo instead of the Harmon Kardon. This gives me more flexiblity in the future for upgrade. btw, that grey area on the top left is the kitchen counter.

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Scuffernoose #166872 04/28/07 01:08 AM
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Scuffer, nice drawings.
I'm loving that Google app more and more.

Offhand without dimensions, though the sketchup drawing should provide a relatively good idea, i would put forth a few things to consider:

1) If you are buying for future proofing (moving into a larger place inevitably in the future) and you have the cash, by all means choose the larger speakers.

2) If you don't mind saving some cash now and choosing a more fitting setup, consider mounting some M22s on the wall as i believe the M80s are way too big for that space. Without a good minimum distance from your seating area to the speakers, you will find it difficult to setup a good stereo image. I know, i use the M60s and was in a confined location before. Even the location i have now is about the limit i would recommend for anyone with a floorstanding unit (about 10-12 feet). I have done it with 8 feet distance away but only one person would really have a good stereo image spot.

3) Anything that sits between you and a speaker, like the corner of a couch, will interfere with the sound being reproduced, period.
Again, look back at point #1 and figure how long this might be an issue, if one at all (you can always rearrange furniture or better yet, get rid of some. )

Getting larger speakers to work effectively in a small room is a big challenge.
Good luck.


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chesseroo #166873 04/28/07 03:28 AM
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Too big? hmm... I really want the M80's to work, so is there any layout changes you reccomend? Should I toss the coffee table? Or mabye I could replace the small couch with another recliner so the edge is not so much in the way of the speaker.


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chesseroo #166874 04/28/07 03:39 AM
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When I saw that pic the first thing I expected to read was "this is the layout the wife decreed" Not that I'm calling you a chick or anything.
Seriously, from a sq standpoint there's WAY too much furniture there, of course I have no freinds so I only need one chair and a table for my tv dinner and adult beverage.I'm with chess- lose some furniture (that bigass hutch next to the left 80 just makes me shudder) or lose some drivers, or both. Something else to consider if you plan on moving a few times before putting down roots is a pair of m3's come in one(1) easy to store and handle box.
So do you park your car like a girl too or just furniture? JK

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Scuffernoose #166875 04/28/07 03:57 AM
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Too big? hmm... I really want the M80's to work, so is there any layout changes you reccomend?

Ideally- keep one recliner or sofa in the sweet spot and a table to the side(s).Sell the rest in the front yard. Get the 80's as far from walls or giant peices of furniture as possible. Really, a few feet from the back wall- even just to try it.
I was gonna make another furniture joke but I've got as much crap as anyone else so I'll shut up. If you can move that hutch\cabinet thing away from the m-80 a ways that would help.

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duckman #166876 04/28/07 04:09 AM
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When I saw that pic the first thing I expected to read was "this is the layout the wife decreed"




haha, yeah I know what you mean even though I'm not married. I like to have a place for lots of friends to hang out and watch to tube as well as have a listening experience... I better stop while I still have some of my manhood.


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Scuffernoose #166877 04/28/07 04:58 AM
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Great SketchUp, but those look like M60s to me? But I think the drawing is adequate as is.


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dllewel #166878 04/28/07 05:03 AM
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yeah I just used the M60's because thats what was availble in the library.


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Scuffernoose #166879 04/28/07 05:34 AM
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How big is the room? My M80s are in a 19x20 with an open back to the kitchen, for comparison purposes. I think you may be overestimating how much furniture you can fit in there if it's as small as it looks, not even counting the speakers.


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Scuffernoose #166880 04/28/07 10:38 AM
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This configuration is really not much different from mine. I would suggest you experiment with maybe a foot more separation between the fronts. Within this confined area, you'll find that the sweet spot is really at the center of your couch. You can try to broaden that out so that everyone on the couch can experience stereo by employing less toe-in but then you would lose some of the 3D of the soundstage.

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