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Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
Ray3 #171614 07/04/07 02:50 AM
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You can use an IDE drive w/ SATA, you just need a dongle like this:

http://sewelldirect.com/SerialATAtoIDECo...FRs_ggodMQE1oQ.

They're cheap, I just googled that one.

However, if this is a boot drive, not sure how that drive would show up if you just connected to a different computer.

Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
Ray3 #171615 07/04/07 03:04 AM
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many motherboards have both SATA and IDE interfaces on the motherboard, unless that has changed.


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Most, I'd guess. I doubt that budget PCs are coming with SATA optical drives just yet.


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Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
Ray3 #171617 07/04/07 05:31 AM
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Yes many motherboards now have both IDE/ATA and SATA interfaces and most budget still use IDE/ATA. As was also pointed out a card or adapter can also connect an IDE/ATA drive to a motherboard with only SATA interfaces.

Being a boot drive will not matter unless you tell the computer to boot from it in the BIOS or using a boot loader. The new computer’s operating system will boot normally from it’s own HD and read the old HD as just another drive as long as it can read the file system FAT16/32 or NTFS on the old drive.

As for Dell I owned one which had problems right out of the box. They replaced it without question but from what I’ve read they still have some quality control problems. Generally if you are buying a low to low/middle end system you will get more for your money buying a brand name especially if you find something on sale.

If you want a higher end system you generally do better building your own. One advantage is you get exactly what you want. You will know how your system works making upgrades easier. Also you will avoid compatibility issues that sometimes plague brand name systems such as Dell that use proprietary parts.

As others said your best bet for a quick fix is to just get an inexpensive power supply and try that. If it doesn’t work just return it and plug your HD into another computer and burn the data to CD/DVDs. No need for an external HD adapter unless no one will let you get inside their computer.


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Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
grunt #171618 07/04/07 07:49 PM
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Thanks to all -- great feedback.

I need to talk to my friend (he puts the kits together for me).

I believe that it is probably time (after 3 years) to upgrade the PC. The current box was not very powerful. For $500-$700 I can get an outstanding DYI upgrade.

I will likely get a PS locally as suggested and see if that solves the immeduiate problem. Id so, I can get at my information and tie the old/new PCs together, transferring the info that way. Then I can use the old PC as a server or to store pictures/music.

I'm glad to see that there is a simple solution to the IDE/SATA thing.

BTW - any better choices than Tiger Direct for barebones kits? New Egg doesn't have much.

I'll report back.

Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
Ray3 #171619 07/05/07 01:25 AM
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Ah dead and cheap PCs.
My father continues to buy them and they chug along for a short while, then get 'slow'.
I don't trouble shoot them anymore. It is not worth the effort.

Two computers just came across my desk a few months ago. Both had failing motherboards. It was a good thing i had enough components from two other units to swap out stuff and figure out all the faulty parts. It can be a lengthy process otherwise.


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Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
chesseroo #171620 07/19/07 11:55 PM
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I promised to report back.

Keeping the above in mind, I wanted to come up with a robust PC that is capable of handling Vista (doing XP Home for now) when they get an SP or two under their belt. Got one of my buddies at work (major geek) involved and we went to work on Newegg putting the pieces together. The new PC:

- BIOSTAR TForce TF570SLI Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce AMD Motherboard (IDE and SATA)

- AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Windsor 2.8GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor

- MSI NX8500GT-TD256E OC GeForce 8500GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card

- Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3500641AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

- LITE-ON 20X IDE DVD Burner

- MSI TurboStream MS-4500-020 ATX12V V2.2 500W Power Supply 115/230 V UL

- 4 GB = CORSAIR XMS2 DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory

- COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC ATX Computer Case

(Also installed a Pioneer DVR-108 DVD Burner from the previous PC)

My buddy put it together last night and is letting it burn in today. I’ll get it tomorrow. He tells me that I’ll have the fastest "old guy" computer on the block.

The good news is that the whole thing (with rebates and some free shipping) came in at about $675. I saw a similar PC (many of the same components) advertised in PCWorld for $1700.

Let me know what you think.

Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
Ray3 #171621 07/20/07 12:38 AM
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I think you shopped very well, Ray!


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Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
Ray3 #171622 07/21/07 05:23 PM
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Well, I hate the route you went (look at where I'm from, hint hint) , but you appeared to have gotten an outstanding system at a very good price.

Rich

Re: PC is DEAD. Please help
samandnoah #171623 07/24/07 10:13 PM
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Thanks Rich (and Tom)!

Spent the weekend in Lake Placid (my daughter did the Ironman Triathlon - I'm REALLY proud of her) and am in the process of getting everything set up.

So far it is fabulous. Fastest old guy computer on the block.

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