Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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I've tried stereo for movies and with my room, ears and equipment, stereo just can't be compared with multi-channel. They are universes apart. Also, the difference with and without the 600 is astounding for both music and movies.
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Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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Why not get him to try a BIGGER screen??? I know, he already commented on that a long time ago.
"Tis better to desire that which you do not have, than to have that which you do not desire!"
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Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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Yeah, maybe he doesn't have to compensate for something.
Poor vision, I mean.
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Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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Ok, so I tried what Charles suggested. I flipped my Sonys upside down and stacked them on the M80s. I listened in 2.1. At my normal listening level of a half watt, the Sonys sounded thin, hollow, tinny and very laid back with a soundstage that consisted of a centre image only. I did like the fact however that the centre image was higher up than the M80s. BTW, my Bose 601s placed the centre image high up like that. Bass was good crossed over at 100Hz. When I cranked up the volume to about 40W, the Sonys came to life. They didn't sound thin, hollow or laid back anymore although they definitely were tinny. The centre image spread out quite a bit and they became more acceptable. They didn't sound as open and airy as the M80s though. I wonder if the average listener could pick out the Sonys from the M80s at these higher power levels . I hope I don't open up another can of worms with that statement . With A&B, I definitely liked the taller soundstage. But the tinniness of the Sonys made the sound less than acceptable. I'm sure with a nice Axiom on top, it would sound great. I very much recommend that you buy twin sets of M80s and mount one upside-down on top of the other for the ultimate in 2.1 centre imaging . Remember to buy an A1400 to drive them. I also want to correct an earlier mistake. The Sonys are made from 3/8" MDF with the exception of the front face which is plastic.
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Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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I was looking around the net and found this...
High Gloss Cherry M60 VP150 QS8 Open for Auditions but please don't drool on the High Gloss
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Interesting. Rocket 550 mains, Rocket RSC200 (Bigfoot) center channel, M22s and VP150. Wonder what he was using for surrounds.
Jack
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Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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It appears that this person was doing A/B testing. I'd sure like to hear the person's opinion on this.
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To see the Bigfoot with the VP150 it shows just how big that rocket center is. I am blown away by the size. I could never fit that into/onto anything I own.
Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70
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Wall-mounted speakers, whether they are toed in or face straight out, will not enhance your movie experience and will destroy your musical experience. However, a good set of wall-mounts when mated with good floor-standers, may actually enhance movies and music.
Mojo, There are so many missing variables in making such conclusions, i simply don't know where to start.
Toe in or no toe in does not work better for music vs. movies. On wall vs. floorstanding will not make more or less soundstage. Height of speakers further apart vs...
Ah geez, just way too much.
Bottom line, even crappy speakers can make a good soundstage if the seating location and speaker distances to listener and walls works from a physics and acoustics perspective to the preferences of the individual.
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Re: Twin Speaker Sets for A/V
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Bottom line, even crappy speakers can make a good soundstage if the seating location and speaker distances to listener and walls works from a physics and acoustics perspective to the preferences of the individual.
I agree with you on that one. Like I said in my post above, I think the average listener would be hard-pressed to pick out the Sonys from the M80s at higher power levels.
As for in/on-walls, I will continue believing that even excellent ones can't create the soundstage of even mediocre floor-mounts or book-shelves. For those that are looking to tuck their speakers out of the way, in/on-walls are excellent provided there is a willingness to sacrifice soundstage.
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