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I'm finally getting around to mounting my M22s on their FMBs today and I wanted to be sure I was using the proper method of attaching the brackets to the speakers since they don't have a mounting bolt. My current plan is to pre-drill 4 holes into the cabinet (using the bracket as a template) to accept relatively fat 5/8" pan-head wood screws. Sound good?
I also plan to poke a hole in the wall below the bracket (but off to the side to avoid the stud) and fish my speaker wires down to another hole above the baseboard for a cleaner look.
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Never mind about the request for opinions. The speakers are up and they look great. They are centered about 4' up the wall and are pointing slightly downward with no toe in. I found that going down one click on the bracket was too far, so I used the included shim to point them downward at the angle I wanted. Similarly, toeing them in one click was a bit too much so I left them straight ahead. I didn't have any black screws handy to match the bracket, so I used some 3/4" silver screws to attach the bracket to the speaker. I felt a satisfying bite as I drove the screws into the cabinet (yes, I pre-drilled!) and I have no doubts about the security of the entire unit.
The listening tests showed a pleasant increase in bass, lending an unbloated roundness to the sound. Also, the music seems to be coming from larger speakers due to the increase in height, an illusion I find very pleasing. There's not much difference in imaging since the speakers are only mounted about 2 - 3" wider and 3" further back than they were before.
All in all, a very worthwhile change. I might post a picture or two later, but I'm currently supervising my two kids as they play in a wading pool full of uncooked rice and beans, and various glass beads and smooth stones (a.k.a. "treasures).
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Looking forward to some pics pete.
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The listening tests showed a pleasant increase in bass, lending an unbloated roundness to the sound. Also, the music seems to be coming from larger speakers due to the increase in height, an illusion I find very pleasing. There's not much difference in imaging since the speakers are only mounted about 2 - 3" wider and 3" further back than they were before.
Yeah. Whatever.
Has a veil been lifted or not?
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Ha ha ha, I lifted your mom's veil last night!
I'm really sorry. "Mounting older" in the subject header made me think of that, but maybe I was pre-destined to think of it anyway.
Last edited by CV; 09/08/07 11:21 PM.
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Lifting sombebody's mother's veil and hoisting your own petard are two entirely different things.
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I wanna see pics of the "trasures"
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Good work, Peter! By my scientific eyeballing, you should be able to get a 47-50" TV in there no problem.
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Wow, you totally flipped the room around. Looks good!
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It will look even better when we get around to putting some of Adam's pictures on the walls.
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"Those who preach the myths of audio are ignorant of truth."
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My kids have that same carpet car city, how funny.
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Who's the giant in the orange shirt? Beautiful children, Peter. And the speaker install looks first rate, too.
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Everything(and everybody)is looking good, Peter, but watch those suggestive titles for your posts; BigJohn may be lurking.
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Speaking of first-rate speaker installs, when I first sat down on my couch after I finished the installation the left speaker looked higher than the right speaker. I knew I had measured (and measured again) from the ground up and the ceiling down to be sure the brackets were at equal heights on the wall, but then I was second guessing whether I had ensured the brackets were at equal heights on the M22s. I had used intersecting diagonal lines drawn across the backs of the M22s to determine the midpoints -- maybe I made a mistake? So I measured from the ceiling down to the top of each speaker and discovered that they are well within 1/16" of each other. Whew!
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Speaking of first-rate speaker installs, when I first sat down on my couch after I finished the installation the left speaker looked higher than the right speaker. I knew I had measured (and measured again) from the ground up and the ceiling down to be sure the brackets were at equal heights on the wall, but then I was second guessing whether I had ensured the brackets were at equal heights on the M22s. I had used intersecting diagonal lines drawn across the backs of the M22s to determine the midpoints -- maybe I made a mistake? So I measured from the ceiling down to the top of each speaker and discovered that they are well within 1/16" of each other. Whew!
I am happy to hear that I am not alone with the whole OCD thing...
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But doesn't it bug you that they don't LOOK even....even if they measure well? Sure would bug me. I'd be starin' at it all the time. wow. too bad the install wasn't up to snuff.
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Actually, once I had ensured that the speakers were, in fact, even, the illusion collapsed. Knowledge is power. I should really buy myself a laser level that sticks to the wall, though. I'm making do with a "construction orange" colored overly-long mason's level (the kind with three spirit bubbles in it -- one for horizontal and two for vertical).
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Just make sure the laser in your level is blue.
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Love those analog spirit-bubble levels! None of that fancy-schmancy laser stuff for me. Adorable kids, Peter.
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They are that.
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For some reason i edit-read Alan's email (reading too quickly i suppose) and it came out like this: Love those analog spirit-bubble fancy-schmancy laser kids, Peter.It was a tired afternoon.
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I have not laughed that hard in a long time. Good read...
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