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Or maybe it is all true and the world really is going to hell in a hand basket. My mother has been saying it for years and here i just thought she was being superstitious. So what is false is true, what is blue should really be black. The philosophy of why what is, is. Took a course on that years back, the philosophy of science. Why do people believe a centimetre really is a centimetre? Why couldn't it be an inch instead? Why should one believe the guy who decided to make up a centimetre? Oh the chaos Ajax, the chaos you spread. 
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 . Good one. My we're sharp tonight, eh?
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Interesting, but not much of an argument. Geez Chess, I expected a better effort here. Come on now. 
Jack
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Oh yes, a good reason not to become handicapped is that you'll have to dish out a fortune for carpet because companies don't warranty a residential carpet for wheelchair use. Over $2000 in carpeting just for that room.
I dropped almost $1000 (after price searching dozens of stores which all had the same pattern) in carpet for my room and it is about half the size of yours... I think that the better reason to not become handicapped, is just that you wouldn't be handicapped... 
Seriously though. Some people here are a bit serious about their data. It is all good, and you will see that they are getting to a point, yet taking a somewhat competative and fun approach to it.
My 2 cents are the same as many others. You were at AVS when you heard the "bright" comment. I am about 99% sure of that. I mean, we've all been there at some point. It was the comments on that site that almost steered me away from Axioms, but then I would send a PM to some of the more vocal people, and they either wouldn't respond, or would say something like "well, everyone know that they are bright" or "my friend has/had a set and he said that they were bright compared to..." Of all of the responses back, I think that I got 1, and only 1 that actually had listened to Axioms in person. This guy owned them, and said that they were bright in a post over there, but in a PM said that he was finding that he really was liking the Axioms (M60's) the more he listened to them. I don't think that he ever went back and rebuttled his own post, but he helped to convince me that first impressions can be wrong. Plus source material has a big impact. There are some CDs I own, from some lesser known (lower budget) groups that I refuse to even play over my Axioms because I hear how bad of a recording they are. Instead, they are in my car, which has upgraded speakers and head unit, but still isn't anywhere near the quality of my Axioms. In that small, imperfect little environment, those "crap recorded" CDs sound just fine.
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Any more back patting between you two and one of you might cough on your danish. 
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Leave mine to me!
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Those graphs are flat. They won't be if you redid them with the speakers in an everyday run of the mill room. But I think it is good to start out with a flat frequency response. Talking about how speakers sound is fun. But everyones rooms can have different dimensions, building materials, furnishings and be driving those speakers with different amplifiers and feeding those amplifiers from different sources. Maybe some of you have cds that were well recorded and some aren't. The list of variables is large. If the people on this forum all say that Axioms are good, then it is reasonable to believe that they are good. But they can only really describe the sound that they are getting. If someone were to slam the speakers, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Maybe they put minimal effort in the setup, in a bad room, etc. Axiom is a cool company. Just buy them and listen to them in your house with your gear and see if you like them. Besides, it is just one pair of speakers right? You can always get more.
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I really do believe that some, like Chess, do find the Axioms bright. However, I believe that mid-range hearing loss may have something to do with that. Another factor could be the speakers that a listenener was used to in the past. I was perfectly satisfied with my Bose 601s for example until I got my Axioms. The Axioms revealed highs (amongst other things) in music that were completely cloaked by my 601s. Now some may call the Axioms bright in relation to the Boses. And they would be right. So when we say that a speaker is bright, we need to qualify the statement in a relative sense.
I don't like danishes by the way. Give me a grilled cinnamon bun anyday.
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