Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater M22 vs M60 and M22 vs VP150

I just picked up an Onkyo 705. I am working on choosing my TV between a 58 Panny (1080p), 6070 Pioneer (768p), Samsung 52 LCD (5271), and trashing my budget and getting a Pioneer 6010.

I am working on a few subs - but am leaning towards the SVS PB12-Plus (because the cherry color is not-debatable with the wife).

So my speaker decision is somewhat constrained by the overall budget which can be spread out to a nicer TV and the expensive (to me) subwoofer.

My thought at present is:

3x M22s (L/R/Center)
2x QS8
SVS PB12-Plus

or

2x M60s
1x CP150 (or M22s)
2x QS8
(other cherry-wood Sub cheaper than the SVS due to the higher price of the M60s and CP150)

What do you guys think? Also I think the stands for the M22s are a bit expensive - any good alternatives without building?

Trying to keep my speaker budget to around 2K including sub. I could possibly even get a rear channel in that budget depending.

Thanks in advance for your advice. I am sure I will be happy with most any setup since I currently roll with the TV speaker on a 27" CRT that is 15 years old or so!

So you are looking for a Cherry Wood Set up? Have you looked at the free upgrade to High Gloss Cherry (or Burlied Walnut) that Axiom is currently doing?




As for subs, wouldn't you want to get an EP500 in the same finish as your other speakers?


For some excellent pictures of the High Gloss see.. HERE

Well the price difference between the EP500 and the SVS PB12-Plus is a big factor. I won't pay that much for a sub unless it also does my laundry.

I am not sure about the gloss vs standard finish... will have to check with the wife.

My major dilemma is the M22s vs the M60s and the M22s vs the CP150.

Nice pictures by the way (and how do you like your HSU sub? If they made those in wood finish they would be in the running).

I went to the SVS website before the last post and saw they had the sub you referenced for a clearout price of $1000 or so. The EP500 is listed at roughly $100 more. I'm guessing you found it for cheaper?

I can't give you any input on the 22's vs the 60's as I've only heard the 22's in a local HVAC store in Burlington. There's been a lot of posts recently though that mentioned that the 22's are slightly more detailed than the 60's. So your ears preference will play more into which one you would want. The 22's have been compared to sound more like the M80's.

I've been very happy with my HSU. They used to have rosewood colors, not sure if they still do?

Where do you live? I'm in Burlington and you're welcome to come over for a listen sometime. By the way the HG Cherry pics were from another forum member in Toronto "DanielBme"

The 22s are more detailed, forward yet thin-sounding compared to the 60s. Many have been able to make the 22s sound warm with the addition of a sub. The 60s are less detailed but warmer and laid back. They become more detailed and forward with higher volumes.

In one opinion.
The M22s, M60 and M80s are virtually identical in blind listening tests with subtle differences in the bass output, or perhaps not as subtle with the M22s vs. two large floorstanding speakers.
I agree the M22s should be paired with a sub.


A common trait attributed to the fact that in listening tests human subjects will pick the louder and otherwise identical speaker as sounding 'better'.
Isn't science great?
Why yes, yes it is.
Am i talking to myself?
Why yes, yes i am.

The SVS sub is $799 as an overstock 'special' - so at the moment it is considerably cheaper.

I am in Tennessee - so I'm quite far from Burlington! Thanks though.

So ... besides the mains - how about the M22 in stead of the CP150?

Also - when people say that M22s sound better with a sub - does that mean some/many people run the M60s with no sub?

Thanks for all your opinions...

Indy, welcome. Considering that you're going to be using a good sub, your proposal of three M22s across the front should be excellent, assuming that you'll have the room to properly place a vertical M22 center.

In two opinions, Chess. Jakewash and I both heard the same thing .

Perhaps Axiom has tweaked these speakers over the years to the point where they now do sound considerably different compared to what some of you may have heard years ago.

Hey Industrialstr, maybe I’m not as crazy as I thought.