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Regarding paying for a listen.

The new Radiohead album was free from their website. On average they made more money going with "voluntary" payments on their website than going through a distribution company. No discs needed to be pressed, no legals issues to deal with, just digital downloads.

It is my impression that they did quite well with the profits (more than they would have gotten if they distributed a physical media).

Sorry for jacking this thread!

Wouldn't the remixing described not be much different that running the CD through one of your receivers 5.1 processors?

Also, Hutz, glad your here. A question for you and other drummers.
One of the reasons I enjoy listening to some Tool stuff is their unusual drum style. I have no musical training so I can only best describe it as often seeming to be based on odd numbered beats instead of even. It's what caught my attention to this music as I remember that I suddenly realized I couldn't easily tap out the beat with my hand(s), as I often subconsciously do when I listen to any music. At least not until it forced me o pay closer attention and figure out what the heck he was doing.

Is there a name for this style of percusssion that seems to be odd numbered based. The half beats really throw you off. At first they seem random but then you realize they are being thrown in on an odd numbered count.

Does my description make sense? At first I wasn't sure if I liked it but now it's almost hypnotic to me and a big part of the appeal.

Although I'm still not much for their occasional lengthy tracks of not much but sound effects at barely audible levels.

sounds like "5 channel stereo" mode on my denon

Murph,

I don't listen to alot of tool, however I had drummer friends when I was in music school that listened to that stuff. Alot of their songs are in odd time signatures such as 5/4, 7/8, 9/4, I think they even have a song that is in 15/16.

They also mix and match time signatures within their songs, so they might start out as 4/4 for 2 phrases, then goto 7/8 for another 2 phrases, then 5/4 for 2, then back to 4/4.

Unless you know the song by heart it is impossible to tap your foot to the beat!

North Americans are VERY used to 4/4 timing ( don't think I have EVER heard a 5/4 song on the top 40). 4/4 is something that is easy to dance to, and understand for the average person.

Right you both are. While I play guitar and dance badly, I, too have an acuteness to the odd timings used by many alternative and metal bands out there. Zeppelin was prone to use a few odd timings in their later stuff, as were the Beatles, but more infrequently. Soundgarden is another good example of a band using weird time signatures.

It certainly makes the music more interesting, if a little less accessible, in my opinion. Whether its a Western bias to the symmetry of 4/4 time or the fact that so many pop music beats follow that pattern, I usually tend to not like off-timed songs the first couple of times you hear them. It makes it difficult to anticipate the vocals (like somebody is cutting out bits of the song everywhere). It's not until after you get used to the time signature that you can get into it. But that's what makes those songs fun, too - having to invest the time to get into them and all.

Thanks Hutz.
I had to google a bit to make sure I understood the timing references, 5/4 etc. Makes sense to me now. I found a neat page that has visual and audible references as to how to build a 5/4 beat for those who are interested in hearing what I meant.

5/4 beats

Capn,
Your absolutely right. Describing it as "like somebody is cutting out bits of the song everywhere" is exactly how I felt at first but you put it into better words.

I'm going to have to play closer attention to the drums on my next listen through my tool CD's.

Or you could just listen to Take Five by Dave Brubeck. Heck, listen to all of Time Out. The time signatures are in the liner notes.