Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners HELP!! I need some help and Advice

Hi M60,

The M60s can produce bass, but they are not great at sub-bass. The response is only down to 37Hz at -3db. Your Velodyne has about 20% more surface area on the sub, and is amplified on top of that (as is the Definitive Tech Speaker). Some people like music with heavy bass, and since you had the Velodyne already, you may have become really accustomed to it.

If you had you mains on large, the sub was not doing anything. Just try setting the mains to small with an 80Hz crossover (it only takes 10 seconds to make the switch). See how you like that sound.

Hey Bud,
I have not read every single word in this thread so maybe someone suggested this already but why dont you grab a few of your favourite CDs/movies and find someone in your neighbourhood who has M60s. Play your CDs/movies on his system and see what they sound like? If the sound is better than your system (keeping in mind that speakers sound different in different setups) there is something wrong with your setup. Else, your ears just like the Def tech sound better (which is quite possible). I have a pair of M60s, a pair of QS8s and a VP150 and I just love the sound. M60s go fairly low but certainly not as low as a dedicated subwoofer. I dont have a sub hooked up at this time and I dont mind it. I like the sound of my speakers for both music and movies.

Guys, spoke with a friend who used to have the exact same model (BP 7006) and he just loved 'em. He now has upgraded to Def tech Mythos but back when he purchased his 7006, he too liked them better than Axiom. So it does sound like unless M60 owners' M60s are properly setup, they would be challenged to sound better than Def tech.

Ummm, no.

The bottom line is, to each his own.
Some people prefer DefTech, some Axioms.

Every speaker may have placement tweaks given the different rooms in which they are set. Ultimately some speakers will sound better in some rooms compared to others.
It is really just a big unsolvable puzzle of multi dimensional physics.

Axiom M60 Owner, after re-reading your original post I am somewhat sure the problem is the Audyysey settings, that and the fact you have only 1 10" sub, how big is your room?

Audyysey tends to set the subs output much lower than most of us would like. Bump up the subwoofer channel probably about 5-10 db and you could run your LFE setting as LFE+Main with the mains set to large to really boost the low end.