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Bi-wire M60s
#222831 09/28/08 05:32 PM
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I notice that the M60 have 4 binding posts on the back. I read that was for bi-wiring. Here is an article on that seems to advance the theory of bi-wiring.

http://www.soundstage.com/synergize/synergize031998.htm

My questions are:
There are 4 binding posts on the M60 so it seems that Axiom would promote the owner actually bi-wiring the speakers, is this true?

Has anyone done this and if so does it really work?

Should you use the same rated speaker cable i.e. 14 gauge for both high and low freq or is different cable for each recommended?

I'm assuming that to prepare for bi-wiring that one just needs to remove the bridge(jumpers) between the red posts and the bridge between the black posts.


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edmondwolfman #222832 09/28/08 05:41 PM
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It is my understanding that for the most applications bi-wiring speakers is usually done for large concert type scenarios where different amplifiers are used for the different drivers of the speakers due to the large amount of power needed to fill the arena.

It is also my understanding that bi-wiring speakers such as the 60s will probably not add any more performance to the system or speaker.



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Re: Bi-wire M60s
RickF #222845 09/28/08 07:13 PM
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It'll add money to the cable manufacturer's bank accounts!

In large part, it's there because the market expects it.

There are two different things (well, more, really) that you can do with 2 sets of binding posts: bi-wiring (most likely no benefit whatsoever, see this link for a good, in depth explanation. Incidentally, that's what I did with my speaker cable, although I only did it for fun, not because I expected any sort of real benefit.

Bi-amping (as seen in the article above) is using two separate amplifiers to drive different portions of the speaker. It is slightly less sketchy in concept than biwiring, but you are still only likely to see benefits with an external crossover between the amps rather than the internal crossovers between the drivers.


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Ken.C #222855 09/28/08 10:55 PM
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I was just wondering why Axiom builds their speakers with the double binding posts and actually market them as bi-wirable or bi-ampable if that makes no difference.


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Re: Bi-wire M60s
edmondwolfman #222857 09/28/08 11:03 PM
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I think that's exactly it. To market them.

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A lot of people believe it does make a difference, and expect it on high end speakers.


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edmondwolfman #222889 09/29/08 03:04 AM
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Bobby, biwiring(sometimes sarcastically referred to as "buywiring")is of no audible significance to the best of my knowledge. Alan has discussed this in one of his articles , including a frank comment that Axiom includes the extra terminals as a "nod" to certain enthusiasts.


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JohnK #222896 09/29/08 04:45 AM
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Hunh. That's a better explanation of biwiring than I've ever read before. Interesting that there may actually be a teeeensy bit of science behind it.

Also, I was wondering how long it was until someone pulled out the "buy-wiring" chestnut. Now all we need is a Bose acronym...


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Ken.C #222900 09/29/08 05:58 AM
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Re: Bi-wire M60s
St_PatGuy #222901 09/29/08 06:05 AM
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Did we ever get around to coming up with something for Axiom as an acronym? The x could prove troublesome.

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