Axiom vs. Kimber
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I'm looking to buy quality interconnects (analog).
Would you say Axiom's interconnects or Kimber Kable's "Tonik"? The Axiom are cheaper.
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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My general view is that you can do considerably better on price for excellent quality interconnects from a source such as Parts Express. I'm a bit curious about your "analog" specification. Any coaxial cable with a 75 ohm impedance is suitable for digital use and of course would be equally good for analog, so why are you thinking analog?
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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I've done a ton of searching the past week for audio interconnects. The best deal I've found for decent interconnects was from www.bluejeanscable.com They charge about $26 for what many, many other places charge $50+ for.
Good luck in your search.
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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Sorry, I meant analog as in a "dual" RCA specific interconnect...I've used 15 year old RCA cables as "coaxial digital" cables plenty of times and I'll be darned if I can hear the difference
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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I just got my S-Video and 5.1 analog's in from them today. Very good quality product. I can not beleive how cheap they are compared to their competition.
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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I've decided to go with Blue Jeans...they're less than half the price!
Also the web site, while simple, is convincing.
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Not so fast, my Saint. Apparently you just want a stereo RCA connection between a player and receiver(unless you have no connection at all now, you'll also be darned to hear any difference with this). Blue Jeans is fine and relatively reasonably priced but there's no good reason to pay more than this .
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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Hmmmm...
Why do people pay hundreds of dollars for this stuff I wonder?
Anyway, already ordered from Blue Jeans, guess I know for next time.
I DO believe in buying quality,and $15 extra is not so much to pay for a cable that will last me years and go from system to system.
I'm replacing my current cables because they were the extra-cheap kind that came with the CD player.
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People pay hundreds of dollars for this stuff because unfortunately this is an area of audio which is rife with charlatans preying on the gullible.
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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So when a company like Kimber Kable charges $500 for interconnects, they're basically cheating you?
How much do $500 interconnects cost THEM to make?
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Although you're getting the described physical goods, yes in my view you're being cheated because of bizarre claims of better sound alleged or implied in the hype. Don't know the exact cost, of course(don't know how much snake oil runs these days), but I'd suspect that dropping the two zeros would get you pretty close.
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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To be fair, I think many companies in the audio cable business actually believe their products are superior to the competition. I would hope that only a handful are willfully deceiving the uninformed.... And I'd also hope they have trouble sleeping at night -- in their satin pajamas between 800 thread count egyptian cotton sheets on their king beds in their multi-million dollar homes...
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But boy, does higher thread count feel better....
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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One last thing. Let the 'other guy' use lamp cord or string. Find an inexpensive cable using oxygen free copper and balanced design. Or, if you want to walk on the wild side, try some Mapleshade Clearview Golden Helix speaker wire and interonnects.
I have 'em, and I like 'em!
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I wonder what's behind their design philosophy at Mapleshade? Why does the green wire go from one strand to the other?
I can't vouch for their hardware, but Mapleshade the record label, puts out some fine sounding software.
Check 'em out: http://www.mapleshaderecords.com
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Peter, surely you don't doubt the technical rationale for the Mapleshade products? Any doubts you might have should be resolved by studying these wonders.
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Laying your cables on carpet dulls the sound?! There's truly one born every minute!
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Re: Axiom vs. Kimber
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I think the insulation on the Mapleshade Clearview speaker wires is 1/10,000" thick. They say that laying the wire on synthetic carpets has a bad dielectric effect. They use their wires in their recording equipment. Always liked the incredibly clean sound of Mapleshade recordings.
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Yeesh...so it's saying a "better" powerbar made the music sound better?
Not bloody likely.
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Don't have their powerbar, but I like their speaker wires.
Those Axiom cables look like the pearly cables from Outlaw, but are much more flexible. You could never drape Outlaw cables like those beautiful Axioms.
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If your powerbar is a power bar/line conditioner that prevents interference from other appliances on the same circuit then it does make MY music sound better. For instance when I turn on this powerful halogen lamp a audible pop is heard through my speakers with a slight dimming of another light in the same circuit.
This is my power bar:
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Okay, I've been eyeing these for a couple weeks now. I need 35 foot S-Video cable. Have you hooked up the S-Video? What do you think?
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