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I have had my rec. hooked up now for about a week now. Paying attention to video resolution and noticing that only the 1080i signal from my cable box looks way better than any other signal.
So I go back through my manual and notice if using hdmi, whatever is input is also output. If I use component, then whatever is input would be upconverted to 1080i feels like a ripoff, I mean why have it if it is not going to perform with the hdmi. Just venting.
The TX-SR606’s HDMI inputs can receive pristine digital video from HDMI-enabled components for a single-cable output to a display device with an HDMI or DVI connection. 1080p video is processed as it is, but all other signals can be upscaled to 1080i via HDMI. Upscaling takes the video resolution to pure HD quality, and it better matches the native resolution of today’s high-definition displays.To further improve performance on high-definition displays, the TX-SR606 features a deinterlacing chip with Faroudja DCDi Edge technology, which effectively eliminates video

Just thinking, not sure if it would work. If I hook up my component cables for video and leave the hdmi, if I can still get the best audio and the best video.

So how do you know it works?

Not sure, but I was just speaking with my cable provider I can hook up component out for video and optical out for audio. question is will my audio be anywhere close to what it is thru hdmi.

Audio from cable is less than what you have on DVD, so yes it will be just as good with optical.

Hooked up the comp. cables, not impressed with outcome. Actual 1080i signal seems to be worse and 480p sig. is like decreasing screen size.

Audiodreamer,

You may have posted it before, but what is the native resolution of your display?

Dreamer, I've read your post three times and can't follow. What's a "ripoff"? Upscaling certainly doesn't take resolution to "pure HD quality". Assuming that your display has a 1080 native resolution everything will have to be displayed at 1080p, regardless of what it started at, by way of upscaling and/or deinterlacing in a player, the receiver or in the display itself if a previous device hasn't done it. What does "effectively eliminates video" mean?

I got this info off of Onkyos web site.TX-SR606 can upscale all video signals to 1080i, regardless of the connection, for output via HDMI. This is a limitation of the Faroudja DCDi chip used in the Onkyo receivers. Incoming 1080i signals via component connection can only be transmitted via HDMI in 720p. Incoming 1080i signals via an HDMI connection will be transmitted in 1080i.

The following hook up recommendations will allow you to display 1080i resolutions from your cable/satellite.

1. If the cable/satellite has the options of HDMI or DVI outputs, use those connections instead of the component video. The HDMI connection will allow audio and video signals to be sent thought a single connection. The DVI connection is for video only. You will need a DVI to HDMI adaptor plus a separate audio connection to go from the cable/satellite box the receiver for sound.

2. if your cable/satellite only supports component video then you can either go component video out along with the HDMI from the receiver to the TV. Or you can go from the cable/ satellite direct into the TV with the component video so you can get the 1080i signal from the broadcasts.

resolution is 1080i

This was description of receiver from Amazon

The native resolution is 1080i? What is your display if I may ask?

keep in mind that upscaling faces a tough job in essentially trying to create something out of nothing. Either your display or your receiver will be doing the upconverting in any case, if you feel that the 606 does a poor job of upscaling, your TV itself may do a better job. I too have found that for non-HD signals, my 605 usually actually makes it look a little worse for trying to upconvert than it does straight to the TV. It's one of the caveats of the receiver, the main benefit being the one wire to display.

Also keep in mind you paid ~$300 for something that does so many things, whereas for a pure upscaler you would pay at least $500 for.

First of all it is not a ripoff from anyone from this forum. 2nd.) The best res. I could have would be 1080i. TV and receiver. 3rd) Was under the impression that any input regardless of resolution would result in 1080i out thru HDMI. Now maybe I don't fully understand, about upscaling and deiterlacing, but I thought that with 1080i output I would have a full screen like I get with my cable. There is just so much more in my mind to say I feel like I could or would be writing a book.

I understand. What is your set's native res?

I have to go to bed so can’t wait for your reply. The “best res” of anything you will ever have is the native res of your screen. You can upscale it all you want, but if it is not the native res of your plasma/LCD/DLP it will look blurry. Set all of your devices to output at the native res of your screen (my guess, 720p).

He replied with the native res a few posts ago: 1080i

Are you talking about upscaling SD dvd's? IF so, they won't give you a full screen as they are not formated in the right ratio to allow for a full screen(16:9). Or are you talking about OTA signals and upscaling those?

I think i missed that as well. My sources are the same through the receiver or not as far as filling the screen goes. It it's a full screen movie you want to watch on a widescreen TV that change will have to be made on the player, or the TV.

I know, he also PM'ed me and said it was the "best" his set could do, and wanted to know the difference between the two.

1080i native resolution is very rare. It would require a screen with 1080 pixel rows. My guess is the tv is actually a 720p native, and when you set the view to 108i, it is downconverting it which is why it does not look good.

http://whatsonhdtv.blogspot.com/2006/12/1080p-1080i-and-720p.html

Try setting all outputs to 720p and see if it looks better.

OTA signals and upscaling those? This is what I am talking about. My tv is an almost 4 year old Sony FD trinitron model KV 30hs420. 1080i is its native res. so 1080i would be the best I could get, and what is broadcast in 1080i looks superb. So I guess my question would be, will a 480p res 4:3 ratio, upconverted to 1080i res also be upconverted to a 16:9 ratio and would the picture be as brilliant. Most of this is still pretty unfamiliar to me,with that said I want what I thought I paid for whether it was $3.00 or $3,000 and I am sure I am not alone .

Just to say I have done this and now every now and again I lose video signal and have an infinite number of little tiles on screen. I think it is unlikely but could be that with the broadcasters are playing around with the signal before the change from analog to digital.

I would agree, the issue you are having with the blocking etc, would most likely be due to the signal getting lost, too compressed etc, but not necessarily related to the upcoming signal switch over.

Not unless your TV specifically supports a feature that stretches out the image to 16:9. I would imagine that this would further degrade the image.

Ahhh, you have a CRT tv. That explains the 1080i resolution.

I think I understand your question now. You want a 4:3 picture to be upscaled to 1080i and then stretched (change in aspect ratio) to 16:9. The 606 should be upscaling fine, but I'm not sure if it is capable of changing the aspect ratio of a HD picture.

Your TV is not capable of changing a HD aspect ratio though:

http://reviews.cnet.com/direct-view-tvs-crt/sony-kv-30hs420/4505-6481_7-30895537.html

My Toshiba 46H84 46" Projection is 1080i native. Certainly works best when I set the upscaling on my input devices to max out at this point.

If it does not change the aspect, should it at least stay 4:3 and should the image to be as pristine as a normal HD Cable program, (for this tv it looks pretty phenomenal) and they are in16:9.

So would one think that a signal amplifier or boost, if there is such a thing, would help or is this something that would have to be done by the cable or even the broadcaster.