Re: A1400-2
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I guess that was my point. Personally, I was looking for a 2 channel amp to power the M80s, and I was looking for something that could deliver about 400W at 4 ohm. The shutdown issues with the Emotiva amps have scared me off a bit, and I was hoping that Axiom could fill that void with their product. I have no doubt the Axiom amp is worth every penny of the $1990, but it was not the product I was looking for to fill my current needs.
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Rotel offers a class D amp rated at 500 watts into 8 ohms, that would be around 700 watts into 4 ohms, I think. Bryston also offers amps up to 1000 watts into 8 ohms. I think the market here for the Brystons is more for professional applications rather than HT. Bars, clubs, PAs, etc.
I just can't imagine needing 700 wpc in my 4000 cubic foot HT room, I probably don't even need half that.
paul
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Hi doormat...the 2200's are indeed a significant upgrade to the 3805 when it comes to higher volume levels. The output is cleaner, tighter, and although I didn't expect it, bass is increased and "punchier" with the M80's. The 2200's have never shut down.
The downside (although minor because I rarely do this) is that I can get the 2200's to clip at extreme levels (110 - 120dbs at about 10ft, bass clips when set to large), and have gotten them toasty to the touch. But... never a shutdown in nearly 3 years.
Epic 80 / SVS PB13 Ultra Denon 3805 / M2200 Outlaw Monos / Sammy 55" LED
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The Rotel is rated at.
Rotel RB-1092 Specifications:
Power Output: 2 x 500 watts (8Ω, <0.03% THD),
2 x 1000 watts (4Ω, 0.09% THD)
Rick
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I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!
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Re: A1400-2
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It's not just a pet project, it's new technology. It wasn't possible to get that kind of efficient amplification digitally without numerous innovations. The reason it's expensive is do in no small part to the amount of research that went into it. Early adopters of new technology typically pay a premium. Whether or not the price comes down, though, I'm not willing to bet. Yeah, here's hoping they find a way to make it come down. Why not license their new technology to other companies and make up research costs that way? I must admit I'm naive to these things.
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All this talk of 500, 700 and 1000 watts is really starting to make my little Rotel amp seem inadequate for the job. I should have never opened this thread.
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Not mine, it works just fine.
Rick
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The issue here is probably that the power supply is common to the 1400-8 and 1400-2 (they're both 1400-watt amps so it makes some sense ;)), and a P/S that size is both big and expensive to produce.
The electronics were expensive and time-consuming to *develop* but I expect the build cost for the additional channels (between 1400-2 and 1400-8) is lower than than the cost of the power supply and box. There were a few early discussions about this after the 1400-8 came out.
In fairness, most of the requests seemed to be for a 2 or 3 channel version of the 1400-8 rather than say a 600-2 or 700-2 which possibly *would* have been in the hoped-for price range.
M60ti, VP180, QS8, M2ti, EP500, PC-Plus 20-39 M5HP, M40ti, Sierra-1 LFR1100 active, ADA1500-4 and -8
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Going back a few pages in the thread, in a bizarre twist of fate I received an owner's club e-mail the day after writing that I hadn't received one in ages. Maybe someone is watching the forums from the shadows? Jason
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