Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Which Seperates do you have Mel?
I'd probably buy an A1400 if I knew it would make the profound improvements as noted by Jay, but I just didn't get that impression at all when I added my NHT P-5. Better headroom and dynamic peaks, but no difference at all at normal SPL levels.
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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mdrew, all I can tell you is I noticed a difference. What the cause of this is, I don't know. Logically it shouldn't do what it did. I refer to Jay on that because he is more famaliar with his setup than I am and would notice the differences better than I would as someone off the street doing an A B test. I don't have that history. I got the A1400-8 with my entire Axiom speaker purchase. So what I intially heard was great sound with nothing to compare with except my old Yamaha receiver and I didn't do an A B test with it. I just figured that it would sound different and there would be nothing to analyse. Another cent into the thoughts kitty Mel N. Your free to come to Edmonton for a demo though.
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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The experience from the flightline is much more visceral, I bet your kids loved it. The Thunder Birds are cool but we call them the “Thunder Chickens” because whenever we’ve met their ground crews they’ve been arrogant little…^#@$#s, but still cool to watch. Best or I should say craziest show I’ve ever seen was the Tricolour Arrow. Those guys were nuts.
I agree with you about the sound. Those engines in those little “lawn darts” they fly have a much higher piercing sound to them. For shear noise nothing I’ve heard beats an F4 Phantom. Though my ex-wife got to see a space shuttle launch and said it was quite deafening.
The F22 is very cool. My first job here was doing the refueling support for the F22 flight test program and got to go along on several missions.
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Last edited by Zimm; 03/24/09 07:55 PM. Reason: one more photo for Mark
Panny 3000 PJ, 118" Carada, Denon 3300, PS3, Axiom QS8, PSB 5T, B&W sub, levitating speaker wire
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Thanks for the review Jay, as I have not yet had time (not sure if I ever will, those days are gone) to systematically compare the 1400 with the 3808, interesting though playing at 0db-2db per nominal 3800 output or any other Denon level, I notice I continue to absolutely LOVE the Audyssey EQ into the 1400, I mean tonight the sound absolutely blew me away again and inspired me to log on to the Axiom boards. Previously I believed more or less in the rough equation of good equipment + moderate to high volume + minimal or no EQ = audio nirvana, but my ears say the equation has been proven wrong.
I find myself interested in what Family Man stated, I have obviously considered using the 3808 to run the four QS8s and the 1400 to run the M80s and VP150 or some similar combo, I suppose it doesn't fit too well with current science of audio, but what do people think, will it make a difference? What's the best combo for powering an Axiom Epic 80/800 speaker setup given 3808/1400 amplification?
Thanks, you guys are the best.
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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I am so jealous. I talked to one of the pilots after and he could hardly hold back the grin when talking about the jet. Got a great picture (in terms of experience, not quality) of a 3-generations flight: F22, f-16, and p-51. Good stuff.
Nice pictures! Cool that you got to be that close up. No matter how cool the F22 looks it still amazes me how small the F16 is. I better clarify something from my poor wording earlier. I didn’t get to fly on the F22 though I have been up on a 2 seat F16. The support missions I was referring to were refuel missions. I did get to see them in flight from about 25 feet away while refueling. For the record I have absolutely no pictures of that. Once I move if I can find the disk (packed away) I will post some other in-flight refueling pictures of the Thunderbirds, B2s etc…and as long as the unit markings aren’t visible I have a short video of one of our planes doing a low level pass at and air show in Chile. Having a 707 fly directly over your head at 50 feet is actually more impressive than a fighter. Cheers, Dean
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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I'll really be looking forward to those pics and video Dean ... don't forget!
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Man, can we go OT, huh? I just checked the thread topic before posting this... One of my favorite scenes of all time is the F14s "playing" with Japanese Zeros in The Final Countdown...
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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Lol...I remember seeing that movie when it came out, geez around 1980/81.
Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.
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Re: Denon 3808, Axiom A1400-8, M80s and a full HT
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I have the DVD. It's a guilty pleasure!
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