Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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I say get a ULS-15. ULS-15, pffft. ULS-15 QuadDrive. Go hard or go home, baby!
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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I say get a ULS-15. ULS-15, pffft. ULS-15 QuadDrive. Go hard or go home, baby! As they say... "If it's your money, give me the biggest one!"
Dave
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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Yeah, the quaddrive's would be awesome with wireless, placement options would be pretty much endless, as long as you have outlets around the room.
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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Thanks for all the ideas. Have not checked all of them yet. Some observations: ULS-15 looks nice but it is overkill. The cheaper HSU’s don’t go higher than 90Hz or so it looks like, I could be wrong. I need something to be able to handle 100Hz well that’s where I would crossover. So, it looks like SVS could be a good choice. While the new version of PB-12 looks cool it is too expensive. I don’t like the idea of down firing subs and cylinders. Thus: Either PB12-Plus or PB12-NSD not sure which one is better. PB10-NSD doesn’t seem to have very many controls. Still no idea, lots to look at.
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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I had the PB12-nsd, it was a very capable sub, I found it a touch punchy for my liking. the FR graph shows a bump in the response from ~50hz to 60hz by about 5 db. I think it was this bump that annoyed me at times with music. I did manage to get it to smooth out with a little better placement in my room, but opted for the PB13 Ultra, it has a flat FR like Axiom's subs. I think if the EP800 was available at the time I would have gone with that.
I think in your price range, most of the subs do not have a flat FR so this should be a non-issue.
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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Ax, there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to subwoofers, the more placed correctly in a room, the better the FR across all seats. Overkill as in budget, that is a different story. I have 3 subs.
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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... The cheaper HSU’s don’t go higher than 90Hz or so it looks like, I could be wrong. I need something to be able to handle 100Hz well that’s where I would crossover. ...
You are absolutely correct. I didn't even realize that about HSU subs, but even into the VTF range the max xover is 90hz. That is a tad low - I would have assumed that the max would be 120hz or 150hz, as with most subs. While it is entirely your own personal preference, of course, do not feel that M22's will require a 100hz xover. The -3db point on M22's is 60hz, so that would be the "rule-of-thumb" xover point for them. I think that would be just a tad too low, based on my own experiences. When I used my M22's in my 5.1 system, they worked beautifully with an 80hz xover. But yes, perhaps some of SVS's offerings will be a better fit for your application & budget. And no, there is no such thing as too much sub... But I do think it would be kind of silly to buy a $470 pair of M22's and then spend $2,300 on an EP800 to go with them, especially for just a 2 channel system. But that's just me... Good luck!
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The first sub I mated with my 22's was my dsp-3200 out of my theater room. I went for the stf-1 for price, my integra receiver runs it well and it sound good for movies and music. The dsp-3200 is a better sub, but for the price the stf-1 is good for the money.
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Re: M22 questions Axiom or not? Help!!!
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I think he is stuck at a 100hz XO because of his present receiver, that is as low as it goes, IIRC.
Gieseman, just curious as to why you didn't get the 3100? Was the price for the STF-1 that much better? I love those DSP subs.
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