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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
jakewash #257389 04/19/09 05:02 AM
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I dunno. Everybody is different. I found the M22s quite forward compared to he M80s, but not at all compared to the M60s. When flipping back and forth between the the 80s and 60s I did not find either forward... all of which makes no sense, but thats what I heard.


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
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I agree the M22s, especially my V1s are more forward than either of the M60 or M80s. I guess maybe forward isn`t quite the right word for the M80s, definitley more detailed with a higher treble presence on the M80s than the M60s. Quick question Fred, were the M60s, M80s being driven by the A1400. If so this might account for them sounding more simialr than I have heard them.


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
jakewash #257409 04/19/09 05:33 AM
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Nope. I don't remember what the receiver was though.

The 80s are definately more detailed. That is what drew me to them.

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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
fredk #257413 04/19/09 05:41 AM
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That extra detail is also what made me get them over the m60s. The v2 M22s now sound closer to the M60s IMO, remembering back to when I had framer2180's here for those XO comparisons I did.


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
Argon #257553 04/20/09 05:45 PM
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Very good to hear, Rob. I'm glad the demo was at least worth your time.

As the others have said, I would think it a fair assumption that 60's are to 100's what M60's are to M80's. Since you were impressed with the 60's, I really do suspect that you'll be pleased with the way Axiom speakers sound.

If my Axiom speakers vanished and for whatever reason and Axiom replacements weren't an option, Paradigm Studio's would be very close to the top of my list for replacements. They are, IMHO, very good speakers that can acoustically compete with Axiom's. They're just twice the price. ;\)

Good luck!

Order 'em already! \:\)

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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
PeterChenoweth #257610 04/21/09 11:56 AM
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 Originally Posted By: PeterChenoweth
Order 'em already! \:\)


Yeah.....You are right. I am not usually such a waffler when it comes to decisions.

As for the Paradigms - the man I talked with told me I was seeing the latest version of the Studio Series. They were real wood (veneer, I assume) and he said that this is the first time Paradigm has had the real wood at the price point he quoted. Since I was not serious about buying, I did not haggle his original quote which was ~ $700 more than M60s if you choose the Vassallo option.

I have spent a considerable amount of time learning the ins and outs of my AVR over the past 3 weeks. For Home Theater, I determined that I had it connected completely backwards. I had gone from the DVD and Cable box to the TV first and then to the AVR. Dolby PLII decoding the 2 channel input that my TV had is ok but when I changed the hookups to go to the AVR first and experienced the 5.1 input - the difference is night and day. Now I just need to pony up and get the speakers....to your point.......Rob


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
Argon #257670 04/21/09 07:56 PM
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Rob, the latest Paradigms are easy to recognize...they have the curved/eliptical shaped cabinets versus the rectangular "boxes" of the previous versions. As far as I know, the previous versions had real wood veneer as well.


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
Adrian #257683 04/21/09 09:02 PM
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These were the elliptical shape. I have never looked before this past Saturday - since I was really using them as surrogate Axioms, I did not research before going. Normally when I walk into a place to make a purchase of this magnitude, I have researched it to death and I generally know more about the product than the guy that is trying to sell it to me. I am sure that none of you suffer from this "affliction"?


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
Argon #257687 04/21/09 09:23 PM
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Nope, never happened to me


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Re: Who's the Hold UP Now?
PeterChenoweth #258357 04/26/09 11:32 PM
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 Originally Posted By: PeterChenoweth
Order 'em already! \:\)


My wife read me an article from the paper while we were driving about a new article called "The Tyranny of Choice". The theme was about decision making process. It was boiled down to two types - Maximizers (those who always aim to make the best possible choice) and Satisficers (sic) (Those who aim for good enough whether better selections might be out there). The Maximizers agonize over choices and decisions - and are generally not as happy after making the decision. The Satisficers generally made decisions that met their basic criteria and then moved on and were generally happier post decision. I realized that she was targeting the "Speaker Decision" - as it has come to be called. So.....when I got home, I ordered the Cinnamon Beech and quit agonizing over the Vassallos. So.....T Minus 4 weeks....

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