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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
davekro #258687 04/29/09 02:22 PM
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I've never seen my 3808 or 2805 set the trims that high, I suppose it will vary from room to room. I think my 2805 went up to +20dB on the main dial, so even if the 80's were set to +12 for the trim level, it would still go upto +8db when cranked.


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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
drewy1 #258688 04/29/09 02:22 PM
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 Originally Posted By: drewy1
Why is it that once I perform a calibration on my Onkyo 875 that the maximum volume has been limited. Before the Audyssey calibration it was not limited but now the receiver will only go up to about -8db whereas the maximum volume goes up to +18db. Most of the time I find that -8db is enough but sometimes the input source is low and I need to extra power in the receiver.

My Onkyo has an option to set the maximum volume electronically within the settings (likely to keep little kids or teens from cranking the volume to 100% and blowing the receiver). Audyssey may have turned this option on when the default is normally off.

Welcome to the world of "Odd"yssey.

Check your Onkyo manual for this option. You should be able to turn it off again.


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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
SirQuack #258690 04/29/09 02:30 PM
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
I've never seen my 3808 or 2805 set the trims that high, I suppose it will vary from room to room. I think my 2805 went up to +20dB on the main dial, so even if the 80's were set to +12 for the trim level, it would still go upto +8db when cranked.


Randy, you have a very large room. What does Audyssey on your NEW 3808 set all your speaker trims at? I know you know them by heart! ;\)


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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
chesseroo #258692 04/29/09 02:34 PM
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo

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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
chesseroo #258694 04/29/09 02:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo
 Originally Posted By: drewy1
Why is it that once I perform a calibration on my Onkyo 875 that the maximum volume has been limited. Before the Audyssey calibration it was not limited but now the receiver will only go up to about -8db whereas the maximum volume goes up to +18db. Most of the time I find that -8db is enough but sometimes the input source is low and I need to extra power in the receiver.

My Onkyo has an option to set the maximum volume electronically within the settings (likely to keep little kids or teens from cranking the volume to 100% and blowing the receiver). Audyssey may have turned this option on when the default is normally off.

Welcome to the world of "Odd"yssey.

Check your Onkyo manual for this option. You should be able to turn it off again.


Audyssey changes distance and trims and set the EQ option. It ignores everything else.

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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
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OK I found the problem. I discovered that the tone control settings were set to +12db for bass and treble and I also have an intelligent volume control which enables the user to increase the signal volume if it is low. This intelligent volume setting was set to +12db as well. After returning both tone controls and intelligent volume to 0db I was able to get volume up to +18 db. Thanks for everyones help.
I also noticed with that with Audyssey cal. that my fronts are set to full range even though I have a subwoofer. I understand that this is probably correct as the frequency response of the M80's is within +/- 3db below 40 hz. I would have thought that it would be best to set the crossover for the fronts around 80hz so that the sub could do a bit more work. What have other people here done with this setting? I know that this will vary according to the room specifications.

Re: Audyssey calibration problem
drewy1 #258739 04/29/09 11:40 PM
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Did "Odd"yssey \:\) change the tone control and intelligent volume settings to +12? How did they get that high?


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No Audyssey didn't change these settings. I must have done it before the Audyssey calibration.

Re: Audyssey calibration problem
drewy1 #258741 04/30/09 12:15 AM
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drewy, Audyssey does not set the speakers to small or large, it looks for the -3dB point for each speaker, and reports that back to the bass management for each manufacturer. Denon is now using 40hz, as the determination of making a speaker large or small. Audyssey company recommended that to Denon, and they followed suit. Some other manufacturers like Marantz still use 80hz.

In either case, the folks at Audyssey recommend to change those speakers found as large by the receiver, to the small setting. Also, you should adjust the crossover up from 40hz to 60 or 80 on the Axiom m80's. This is all spelled out in the documentation help guide, or in the Audyssey thread over at AVS.


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Re: Audyssey calibration problem
SirQuack #258742 04/30/09 12:21 AM
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Dave, here is what I have so far for trim levels.

Left M80 -3dB
Right M80 -2.5dB (Large/40hz cross, changed to small/80hz)
Center -2.5dB (Large/40hz cross, changed to small/80hz)
Sub(s) -2.5dB (need to figure out why distance is 27ft now)
Surround R +2.5dB (90hz crossover)
Surround RB +.5dB (90hz crossover)
Surround LB +1dB (90hz crossover)
Surround L 0dB (90hz crossover)


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