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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
MarkSJohnson #267469 07/29/09 12:34 PM
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I used to hear 'ghost' radio stations all the time from my computer speakers when the computer was turned off. A bit freaky the first time you hear fuzzy voices and look at the power bar showing that everything is turned off.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
grunt #267481 07/29/09 02:30 PM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt


@ anyone - is there any disadvantage to having a long wire run from a pre-processor/receiver analogue outs to the amp. Reason I’m asking is that if I did get something like the Emotiva XPA-3 to power the M80s I could place it behind the screen which would also put it on a separate circuit from all the rest of the equipment in the office.



That’s where balanced connections come into play. They are not needed if the amp will be within a few feet of the processor, but are needed if your runs are farly long. One aspect of going with separates over an AVR, or, use an AVR as a pre / pro, is it gives you a little more freedom to choose your processor without having to worry about the amplifier section. The last two to three years has been ridden with numerous technological advances in the HT world. About every six months we get to read about the “newest” change. If you go the separate route, you can stay on top of the changes by buying mid level AVR’s instead of the higher end units, which usually come with the larger amp sections. (IE: Denon 3808 verses 5308)

One other thing you may want to consider is to pick up a two channel amp and let the AVR drive the remaining speakers. You should also keep in mind that DD and DTS have new channels to consider when you are looking at buying a different audio processor. (height / presence / width channels). As soon as the Denon 4810 is released, I’ll be moving to that unit.

Re: Help! I think I need more power.
michael_d #267496 07/29/09 04:35 PM
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Nah, Adrian. With all due respect to Mike, the absence of head on the beer in the picture proves that it is not a Proper Pint.

oh, and, obontopic: Amps are cool.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
tomtuttle #267506 07/29/09 05:51 PM
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Nah, it's a perfect Black and Tan. Notice the background too. Corks in a big martini glass......

Re: Help! I think I need more power.
michael_d #267543 07/30/09 02:23 AM
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@ Chris - Thanks! I suspected there might be more potential interference
problems using long runs from the pre-outs.

@ Mark, Chris & Murph - It's definitely music coming from the center M22 but it's
very faint. I'm off this Friday so I'll see if it happens again and try to
find the source.

The first time I heard it I thought it was coming from outside but when I
walked to the various windows it got softer. I finally figured out it was
the center speaker. I didn't give it much more thought since it was
inaudible with anything playing. However, it may become a factor if I run
long wires from the pre-outs.

@ Michael - If I do buy a separate amp for the front speakers it will likely
be something like the XPA-3 so it can power all 3 M80s. That's why I'm so
interested in how it works out for your M80s. Though it's looking like I
won't be needing anywhere near that much power so now I'm looking at what
other amp specs and design factors might play a more important role in my
situation. I'm sure I will have more questions about that.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
grunt #267546 07/30/09 03:16 AM
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Any word if Axiom will carry the Sherwood R-972?

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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
grunt #267551 07/30/09 04:40 AM
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I believe I remember Alan saying something along the lines of they are awaiting its arrival.

In the "Official" thread on AVS, people have mentioned they're waiting for Axiom to start selling them as an indicator that the receiver is available to the public.


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
ClubNeon #267640 07/31/09 04:41 AM
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Cool! I guess I’m hanging out at the right place then. ;\)


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Re: Help! I think I need more power.
ClubNeon #267642 07/31/09 05:02 AM
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 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
 Originally Posted By: grunt
The other factor I was considering is paying to buy power over and over again. I’m not sure what the lifespan of an amp is, but might it not be less expensive in the long run to buy separate amp power that’s sufficient and then just upgrade preamp/processors as desired to keep up with the latest and greatest technology thus avoiding paying for the power section of the AVR with each upgrade?

A good amp, built with quality components should last a very long time. That's the direction I'm headed. My Pioneer receiver has 7 (8 including the sub) pre outs, so once I'm done upgrading my speakers I'll be looking for an amp or amps to take over the heavy lifting. Then I can move to a straight pre/pro and never look back.


Club - which Pioneer receiver. I just got the SC-07 and am trying to figure out how well it will do with the 80s - alternatively I will just stick to the 60s

Thanks!

Re: Help! I think I need more power.
mikeak #267644 07/31/09 05:10 AM
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 Originally Posted By: mikeak

Club - which Pioneer receiver. I just got the SC-07 and am trying to figure out how well it will do with the 80s - alternatively I will just stick to the 60s

Thanks!



So after all that help over there you come here and hijack my thread? ;\)

Just kidding. Welcome to the forum Mike.


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