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Read the whole thread, i didnt know,<<<<<<hangs head and leaves room

No worries, certainly no need to hang your head.

HA HA you cant get rid of me that easy,

I usually push Axioms on AVS forum when someone asks for speaker recommendations. I'll find reviews or articles on the M2s or the M22s with head to head comparisons against Aperion or Paradigm or any other brands, and if the Axiom is favored in the review it just ticks everyone off and they say something like "unfair comparison" or " I don't like the way Axiom designs or makes their speakers so there is no way it is better than the other brands" don't know why people are so again Axioms they say they are too bright but they really like Klipsch speakers which are brighter than Axiom. How did this start, the dislike of Axioms? I by the way love my Axiom M22s and Vp150, they only thing I can say that I don't like about Axiom is the price of the subs compared to other brands that are as good or better at a lower price.

Some people have never even heard Axiom speakers before, and are listening to BS started by people with agendas, possibly by people in the industry who feel threatened by an internet direct company that cuts out these middle men. People who believe others opinions on Axiom's or any other speaker for that matter, are only hurting themselves in the end, as they are cheating themselves out of auditioning a fine speaker. I've heard people describe Monitor Audio and Paradigm speakers the same way, i auditioned both and found them very detailed as well. I guess hearing everything you're supposed to hear, means 'bright' to some people....could be they're just used to not hearing any detail on whatever they already own, who knows. As has been stated before...the graphs don't lie, unfortunately some people can be a little different.

And you lived to tell about it?

Axiom bashing was already a favorite pastime over there when I was looking for speakers a few years ago so I’m not sure how it all started (perhaps someone around longer will know for sure) but I think Adrian is on the right track. AVS is IMO dominated by “industry insiders.” The first hatched job I read on Axiom over there was from a B&M guy.

I believe miss/dis-information has also played a roll…the most vocal group being AV123 fanboys until that company started having problems. I haven’t read a “made my ears bleed” post since then.

I also got the impression from some posts I’ve read over there that Axiom got over hyped a bit for their taste so people probably took umbrage to someone coming into “their house” claiming there was something else as good or better than what they had for a lot less money.

Good luck trying to use professional reviews/measurements over there because as you pointed out anything good about Axiom is flawed for various reasons.

Lucky for me I’m not a lemming prone to following the crowd and by doing further research found that Axiom’s speakers seem well regarded everywhere I looked except AVS which tells me more about the AVS forum than Axiom speakers.

Would be interesting if someone does know how it all started if that can even be determined.

I agree with you grunt. There is a lot of mis/disinformation and half truths spread about Axiom but it is very common in the audio community in general, not just with Axiom. Some companies fanboys are just more viral than others. What is ironic is if you look at the problems and some of the accusations that have surfaced in regards to some of those "problems" you mentioned it sure looks to me that there has been a lot of positive dis/misinformation spread in their favour over the years as well.

I completely agree. Also, that behavior isn’t limited to this hobby either. Back in the day I remember fists flying over G.I. Joe vs Major Matt Mason. Some people (men?) never seem to grow up. For me today it’s always listening to the Flyboys I serve with now having to make fun of the Marine Corps (where I use to serve). I just

I see what you mean gtpsuper24.



Can anyone here confirm if the M3 does or doesn’t have a crossover? The specs list one at 2.2kHz.

The M3's have a high-pass filter on the 1" tweeter and the 6.5" woofer has it own natural roll-off.

I love how that guy is commenting on the speakers when he even admits never listening to them. Sounds like a typical response from the AVS`rs. On the other hand the M3's are highly regarded by a lot of third party reviews.