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That could be a number of things such as placement , room acoustics or could be entirely true , what I am talking about is putting all the players side by side and really testing them which u can't do with id companies which is a turn off for me among other things such as crazy bs claims like these are as good as these and so on . I'm going to try and find some one in my area with 800 or 500 and listen for my self , but even that is hard to compare given different rooms and equipment etc

Guess all the independent reviews are BS as well...

Sorry I couldn't give you the report you were looking for. Looks like you were set on the DT sub from the start no matter the replies you receive here.

No not set entirely I would like to hear as many subs as possible before buying . I am very interested in the ep 500 600 , and 800 its just hard to hear them without dealers .
My main listening is music , so I need a musical sub that can also be great for movies which seems to be hard to find . There are many jack of all trades out there which is fine but I want a ace , any recomendations on subs that fit that are appreciated thanks guys , sorry if I came off the wrong way dave that wasn't intentional

Brandon, what you end up buying is entirely your decision. The guys here are giving you a very objective opinion on the question you asked reg "impressions of Deftech Subs". Rick has tested one and gave you the results of that test and from what I've read from other people(on other audio sites), it would seem that there is an exaggeration in dt's specs. The guys are trying to help you make an informed and objective decision, but if you've made up your mind already....

I don't understand this concept of musical sub. Can the sub reproduce the sounds or not? The sub doesn't care if it is reproducing an explosion or a bass guitar. A good sub is a good sub.

I agree entirely with what you have to say here. A well designed subwoofer is just that. The only reason what I would consider a "music sub" is a subwoofer that reaches only down to around 30hz -40hz which takes up most of the music spectrum but not capable of accurately producing the demanding low frequency material of home theatre.

A good sub is just a good sub. Nice one!

A musical sub is tight (doesn't blur the notes) and fast (doesn't sustain the notes longer than the program material). This would be more acceptable with explosions and the like than music.

A well designed sub can do both.

I use a Hsu STF3 (now discontinued) for my music system. I can with out a doubt recommend a Hus sub for a music only system. I have owned 3 different Hsu subs and they are, were, all great performers with music.

I still have two of the subs and a friend of mine has the other. The other two are Hsu VTF2 MK1.

I also agree a well designed sub can do both, music and movies.