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#277679 - 11/04/09 05:35 PM Should I buy a more powerful receiver?
BWeasner Offline
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Just recently finished putting together my new home theater. After reading numerous forums, I'm concerned that perhaps I bought an underpowered receiver for my setup. Any advice is greatly appreciated!

I currently have a Denon AVR-1910 driving 2 M22's, 2 QS4's and a VP150 center channel. My room size is 11ft X 13ft X 7ft (a little over 1000 cubic feet), listening area is about 11 feet from front speakers.

The AVR-1910 seems to have no problems driving these speakers at high levels in this room...and the sound is the best I have ever heard (but I'm very new to this home theater stuff).

The only other Denon receiver that would be within my budget is the AVR-2310. My question for all you knowledgable people is: would I notice a significant improvement in sound quality ($300 worth) moving from the 1910 to the 2310, or is this price difference more features than sound quality? The AVR-1910 has all the features I need (and then some) so I don't know if I can justify the price difference between these two receviers.

Again, any info or advice is appreciated! Thanks!

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#277681 - 11/04/09 05:41 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: BWeasner]
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Do you have a sub? If not, that will help you a lot with "impact" for both movies and music.

What makes you think you need a different or more powerful receiver? Is it not loud enough for you?

I doubt the change to the other Denon would make ANY discernible difference in sound quality.

If the 1910 has pre-outs, you could add an external amp.
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#277685 - 11/04/09 05:45 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: BWeasner]
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No difference in sound quality. The 1910 is totally adequate to drive those speakers to very loud, undistorted, levels. Keep in mind the difference between 90wpc (1910)and a 105wpc(2310) is probably less than 1 dB, you would be achieving nothing.
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#277697 - 11/04/09 07:03 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: SirQuack]
BWeasner Offline
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Thanks for the replies.

tomtuttle- I am using the Axiom EP350...no complaints at all about the bass. Let me check my understanding of something...with a powered subwoofer like the EP350, the receiver really doesn't do anything other than allocate the correct frequencies to the sub and send the signal? A "more powerful" receiver won't make the bass any better on a powered sub, right?

I guess I shouldn't have used the term "more powerful"...what I really meant was "higher quality." I didn't know if I would hear a huge difference in sound quality from the AVR-1910 vs the 2310...I thought there might be some, but I didn't know if it would be $300 worth of difference!

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#277699 - 11/04/09 07:23 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: BWeasner]
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I have the 2310 but I would not expect much more from it with audio than the 1910. It does have a few more options and a better video scaler but for audio no big difference other than slightly more power which won't change anything in terms of sound quality with the 22's. These are good receivers, and you are not driving real hard to drive speakers with it, so I would not worry at all. To really go up in quality in the receiver you would have to spend $2000 or so to get the high end made in Japan Denons/Onkyos/Pioneers/Marantz etc.

You are correct about the sub, the amp does not send "power" to the sub, it just sends a signal which is then driven by the amp in the sub itself.

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#277700 - 11/04/09 07:27 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: Potatohead]
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The receiver sends the signal only, the 350 sub has its own amp. In a controlled blind A/B test at normal/moderate listening levels, you would most likely not be able to tell an audible difference between a $300 receiver and a $1500 receiver. You would "hear" no difference. As Mr Potatohead mentioned, the main difference would be in features.
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#277711 - 11/04/09 08:16 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: SirQuack]
BWeasner Offline
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Thanks again to everyone for the information. If upgrading would simply mean more features, then I think I will be sticking with the AR-1910 for now...it already fills all of my needs and then some. Besides, I will probably be bitten by the upgrade bug in just a few years anyway!

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#277720 - 11/04/09 09:19 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: BWeasner]
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BW, as some of the previous replies indicated, there'd be no difference whatever in quality and the quantity would be affected only to the extent of an increase of a dB or less in the maximum sound level(e.g., 106dB rather than 105dB).
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#277760 - 11/05/09 07:38 AM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: JohnK]
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
BW, as some of the previous replies indicated, there'd be no difference whatever in quality and the quantity would be affected only to the extent of an increase of a dB or less in the maximum sound level(e.g., 106dB rather than 105dB).

To add to John's comment, the 1 db difference you would not be able to hear. That means that you can play either receiver equally loud and never know the diff.


Edited by Argon (11/05/09 07:38 AM)
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#277794 - 11/05/09 01:42 PM Re: Should I buy a more powerful receiver? [Re: Argon]
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Save that $300 for an upgrade to the M80s.
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