Re: M60 vs M80
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Once again, the contrast ratio number means nothing. Ignore it in the specs and continue to judge for yourself as you are doing.
Also, don't be afraid to ask if you can play with the settings. They will often have TVs set very differently. In fact, some places have been known to do this on purpose to grab your attention to a model they want to sell that week.
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Re: M60 vs M80
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Actually many LCDs come from the factory on full brightness, the stores have nothing to with it, it is all marketing right from the source, but like Murph said some maybe dimmed to bring attention to the one with the highest margin for that week.
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Re: M60 vs M80
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I am a pretty much die-hard Panasonic or Toshiba guy (or at least something Japanese) but apparently those Vizios are super popular. I don't know if I would buy one, but they certainly have the price point down.
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It looks like Vizio also has a 1 year guarantee on the pixels, and I also read somewhere that Sam's club also has a 1 year, no hassle, return policy on TV's.
While looking at the Vizio though, it didn't seem to have those deep blacks like my Samsung does. It's hard not to go Samsung after you've had one for a while.
But I'll be doing some serious comparison shopping at Nebraska Furniture Mart soon. I'm going to take some notes, and rate the cheaper TV's. Will publish it here if I find anything worth publishing.
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Well, I'm back from my trip to Nebraska Furniture Mart. They had about 8 37 inch lcd's to choose from. Once I saw the Samsung LN37B550 marked down to $694.99, there was no need to do much in the way of comparison shopping. I bought it. Saturday was last day for this particular sale.
Now when I was comparing the other TV's, looking at them head on there was very little difference, except for the Toshiba. It had a poorer PQ than the others. Some had wider viewing angles than others. But other than this, there were only minor differences in black levels. Unlike what it used to be. I used to see major differences.
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Well, I'm back from my trip to Nebraska Furniture Mart. They had about 8 37 inch lcd's to choose from. Once I saw the Samsung LN37B550 marked down to $694.99, there was no need to do much in the way of comparison shopping. I bought it. Saturday was last day for this particular sale.
Now when I was comparing the other TV's, looking at them head on there was very little difference, except for the Toshiba. It had a poorer PQ than the others. Some had wider viewing angles than others. But other than this, there were only minor differences in black levels. Unlike what it used to be. I used to see major differences. Sounds like you will be happy with your choice.
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Re: M60 vs M80
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I'm looking for quality sound, not volume. My understanding was the M80's would deliver the highest quality sound, even at low volume, but that the M60 required more volume to sound almost as good. The M22's are missing a midrange speaker and therefore someone said that it was also lower in midrange quality. The entire statements here are not the truth of the world. Don't read into people's personal opinions so much. Others will differ. But what they rarely tell you about, or accurately describe, is how these "differences" people speak of are ridiculously subtle. I highly doubt you would notice any difference between the M60 and M80 unless you had them together in a blind instantaneous test. Frankly i disagree entirely with the M80 is more/most accurate nonsense. It seems to be getting pushed onto the newbies around here lately in a brainwashing fashion.
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But the M80s are so goooood... Seriously? You'll love either one.
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Re: M60 vs M80
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The entire statements here are not the truth of the world. Don't read into people's personal opinions so much. Others will differ. But what they rarely tell you about, or accurately describe, is how these "differences" people speak of are ridiculously subtle. I highly doubt you would notice any difference between the M60 and M80 unless you had them together in a blind instantaneous test.
Frankly i disagree entirely with the M80 is more/most accurate nonsense. It seems to be getting pushed onto the newbies around here lately in a brainwashing fashion. I have one thing to say......RIGHT ON! (for those of you who were around in the 60's & 70's.) Having said that, Truer words than Chesseroo's have never been uttered. As for the TV's - differences are very subtle and once you get one home, you don't have the other brands competing and you are going to love your TV. Same on the 60's vs 80's. I have said many times that I can not imagine speakers sounding much, if any better than the 60's. I keep poking a little fun at the 80's guys on here saying that they can't enjoy the 80's as much as the 60's due to the fact that the quality of sound is so great on the 80's that everyone passes out soon after beginning to listen. Nobody wants to take the bait though.........
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I bought the M22's and I love the sound comming out of them.
Now that I've watched the Samsung LN37B55, I can say that I'm a little dissapointed. Looks fine in bright and ambient light, but when you turn the lights out at night, the darks are grayer than my Samsung LN26B360. Noticeable especially in the black bars in 2.40:1 movies. Also, the viewing angle is not as wide as I would like. But, I only paid 700 instead of 2500 for it. The lighting in the stores seems to be at optimum to make TV's look better that at home.
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