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There's a similar thread over on AVS right now, general consensus is for one sub, the Epik Sentinal is the way to go for the dollar, although the graph doesn't look to be all that, real world performance could differ obviously. The PB12+ is pretty sweet too. I still think you'd be way better off with duals in a room so big.

I have spoken with SVS and HSU customer service/tech support pretty extensively in the last week, and they are both exceptional.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1199217

A continuation of this thread regarding 2 subs seems to make sense. How do you know when you need two subs? I am going to install 1 EP350 in an 18x18x8 room. will that be sufficient?

I would have to think 2 subs in a square room would be a good idea no matter the size. From all I have read a square room can really wreak havoc on bass.

Just ask Mark

2 subs or 3 or 4 give better, smoother bass response than a single. So as long as you can afford the floor space and have the dollars to buy multiple subs, this is the way to go no matter what the room size. Obviously in smaller rooms you can use smaller subs but you still need one really good sub(somewhat large - usually) to hit those really low notes.

Forgot to add to look for Paradigm DSP3200 or 3400 to add to your quest for dual subs, they are priced right and sound great, IMO, very similar to Axiom.

Which is why I have a EP600 and twin 350's.

Didn't you take one of your 350s into the other room or was that just temporary till you buy another one?

Guys, I have learned an awful lot about subwoofers the last 9 months (but am still a far cry from being an "expert)." One of the things I've learned is that the power of the amplifier, by itself, is no indicator of how good a given sub sounds or how loud it will play.

I know that I, as a layman, would tend to judge a sub by how low it would go and how much power it had. The common misconception is that a sub with a 1000W amp is better than a a sub with a 500W amp, right? 'Tain't necessarily so. What matters is how the driver (efficiency/throw,etc.), cabinet design (sealed or ported/internal volume), and amplifier (power/EQ curve/etc.) are integrated.

This past weekend we were testing a sub and, much to our surprise and disappointment, it was bottoming when it shouldn't have been bottoming. We discovered that the new and untested amplifier (we were hurrying to get things up and running and were running late) was delivering nearly twice its rated power. Because of this, the poor thing was trying to deliver unbelievable SPL at under 10 Hz which resulted in bottoming.

It has turned out to be a good thing, because it will allow us to reduce the cabinet size from 24"x20"x20" (HxWxD), to a less intrusive 20"x20"x20" which will prevent the bottoming while reducing output by only about 1 dB above 10Hz.

Point is, you can't judge a sub's performance by any one spec. It's how all things, driver/cabinet/amplifier, work together.

I am still a contented EP-500 owner. Just yesterday, I was playing some music with strong (and low) bass (Stanley Clarke, Billy Cobham, etc.) and I was sitting there just delighted with the tight, clean, smooth bass the EP500 was delivering. IMHO, when integrating all its parts, Axiom got it right with the EP500.

Nicely said Jack. Mojo and I discussed as much back when I was looking for sub.

Fixed . Personally I would be proud to own any of these subwoofers on this revised list. All quality companies imo.

I like the revised list, my PB13 Ultra has been great to listen to(along with the Axioms) and problem free I am quite certain it even has enough power to fill the OP's room with good LFE and then he could add a second sub of his choice down the road.