Re: Harmony One
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IR works by line of sight or at the very least reflections so if your av gear is isolated you must have repeaters, which is more or less how the RF works only it works even if something is sitting in front of the receiver, which is why I am thinking more about Rf capabilities, no line of sight needed. And as Eric pointed out with long macros to work with it can become inconvenient to use a IR remote, not for me but the rest of the family tends to have issues.
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Re: Harmony One
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My projector is behind me and my equipment is to my left in my home theater. If I point the remote straight at the middle of my screen in front of me, everything works perfectly. Even with the macros... The Harmony One is also supposed to have a fairly wide signal "broadcast" so to speak, so maybe I'm just lucky with enough reflection of the signal off of the screen.
Hmmm... I wonder if that would work with all of the equipment behind someone if the signal could be bounced off of a front projection screen. Then it would eliminate the need for IR Blasters for some people....
As for the "magically working" part, my point was that a RF remote won't make an IR device that it out of line of sight, or in another room work out of the box. You need the IR Blaster pieces. I just wanted to make sure that the OP knew that there would be additional equipment to buy if RF capabilities were a "must have"...
Lastly, as for being somewhat isolated, that means that I don't run any media center PC in another room of the house, and my one Dish receiver is in the home theater (it is a 2 TV model, so the other TV gets the RF remote)... Thus, I am not really communicating or needing to control a device or box outside of the home theater where RF is an absolute must have.
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Re: Harmony One
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The harmony remotes do have a very wide dispersion and they do reflect the signals incredibly well as I have the 676 and it has worked very well with my odd system in the previous house but there were many times I would be called in to 'fix' the problem because the remote was set down too soon to have the sequence run it's course. I guess it really comes down to my desire for RF and the ease of use that it offers, no need to point the remote at all vs. ensuring the equipment is in the open at all times..... I think if I go RF the URC will be the one inspite of reviews that say it is hard to program as they appear to sell this model with out a manual? Must research this lack of manual more.....
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I think if I go RF the URC will be the one inspite of reviews that say it is hard to program as they appear to sell this model with out a manual? Must research this lack of manual more..... You own a Denon. Why would you need a manual?
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To inspire you to buy a Harmony so you can burn said manual?
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It has been said that the devil uses pages of the Denon manual as toilet paper.
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You own a Denon. Why would you need a manual? I have completed some initial research into the R-50 and it really does appear to come with no manual. They use the LCD with an online tutorial/instruction set. Looks like the Harmony is out for delivery today.....
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