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C'mon, CV... the appratus required for 3D are active shutter glasses!

You are only required to wear a hot woman for the 3O effect!

Edit: Clarifiction... thats the Three-OH! effect, not Three-Zero, or Thirty. Much funnier that way.



snazzed

It's impossible to keep up on the tech!

CV and the Real Girl.

You could have a hot woman cover, and then uncover each alternating eye 48 or 60 times a second.

The differences between the 4310CI were mainly the addition of the extra 2 HDMI inputs ports and an extra HDMI out port. From what I've read the upscaling using Anchor Bay which is supposed to be a vast improvement. They also have upgrades in other functions.

The only thing that concerns me is the weight. Denon 3808 which is 130W@8ohms weighs more then the Denon 4310 which I think has 140Watts@8ohms

Aside note - The 4310CI is an upgraded 3808CI not 3310CI as a lot of salesman people contend.

The 1.4 HDMI specs most prominent feature on certain version (more confusion for the consumer) is the inclusion of Ethernet over HDMI. Which I don't see the point of since most receiver have Ethernet port and many use WiFi. Also 3D support (let's see if that takes off)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.4

Here's my prediction. I think the industry it going to make a big push for 3D. I think the televisions and accessories that support 3D will be ubber cool. And I think the 3D effect will blow us all away. But ultimately, I think 3D will travel the same road SuperAudio and DVD Audio did... I don't think the masses will buy into it permanently.

I say this because I don't think the majority of people will want to have to wear glasses everytime they sit down to watch a program. It's just too complicated. How much will the glasses cost anyway? After all they're pretty hi-tech themselves. I know over the years they'd come down until eventually they cost a dime a dozen, but it's the upstart that concerns me. Families wont want to have to shell out $100 bucks per pair if there are 5 or more people in the house. And do you have to provide an additional 2 - 6 pair for any guests that might come over, or are they expected to bring their own? Sports bars will face this issue, do they bare the expense of supplying everyone in the joint a pair of glasses so they can watch ESPN, constantly replacing missing or broken pairs? Or do we all have to carry around 3D gasses with us everywhere we go just in case? Plus kids will inevitably break them constantly, loose them, fight over the coolest pair, etc...

Then there's the problem with people who already wear glasses, how will they watch comfortably? Then there's the cool factor, kids 13 to 19 won't be caught dead in them unless Oakley makes them. And then there's the cost of buying everything involved to bring it into your living room. We all know how few people actually own a decent reciever and surround system as it is. Having to buy a $3000 dollar television, $1000+ reciever, and a new $250+ DVD player isn't going to be on many people's priority list, not in the 90's economy, and expecially not in the present economy. Does anyone here remember them talking about the digital switchover originally being as far back as 2004? They wanted to do it far sooner than they eventually did. But they simply couldn't because the vast majority of people refused to run out and replace their analog only television to comply with the new digital standard.

So 6 years later, when most have finally made the switch from analog to digital, do you think they're ready to switchover again from regular digital to 3D digital? Think again. If the 3D format accepts it's initial role as a very,very small one, one that only the highest of the high end crowd will buy into for... perhaps a decade or better, and is willing to exist as a luxury and not as the standard, then perhaps it will survive until eventually the costs of the technology is so low it's incorporated into everything... like stereo sound v/s mono for instance (can you remember the first TV you bought that boosted it was a STEREO TV? Can you even buy a mono TV anymore???), then perhaps one day we will all own a 3D TV. But if they expect everyone to buy into it immediately, and aren't prepared to support it through a long, unprofitable period... then it will probably die like SuperAudio did.

It doesn't matter how much better it is than standard TV. SuperAudio is noticably better than standard stereo, the masses simply didn't care. The hassle to bring SuperAudio into one's home was just too much for the average consumer. My guess it'll be no diffeent for 3D. And I for one agree with Jake, I don't wear glasses except for sunglasses, and that's only to protect my eye's from the sun. I don't want to have to put glasses on to watch TV. Every once in a great while to see a cool movie is one thing... to watch Sport Center every other hour is completely different. Not for me.

I concur. However, there are some sets that are being developed that don't require glasses at all. But they are still in the R&D phase last I heard.

3D is a push to get the consumers to buy 3D TV, 3D Wires, 3D Blu-Ray. I think the general population is getting up to speed with HD now a new paradigm has been introduced with new costs. I don't think alot of people will go for it. I mean look how long it took us to get from SDTV to HDTV nearly 50 years.

If that's a fact then I would suggest they scrap HDMI 1.4 that supports the current 3D format, and just wait until it's available. For the love of God, first they hit us with 420p DVD, a few years later, 1080i was unleashed. Then they upped it to 1080p, and now 3D us heading straight for us... after we've had to swallow all of that they're going to expect us to scrap all our current equipment to handle HDMI 1.5 and the NEW 3D format??? Give us a break already.

If they can do 3D without the glasses then I would totally be down with that... TOTALLY! So save us all from 3D WITH glasses if there is an alternative right around the corner. But right now that's a big 'if', as I've never seen anything in 3D besides a hologram, that didn't require glasses.

Which is why I'll never buy another "top of the line" equipment ever again. Before the LCD/DLP/Plasma, you really had just the CRT. Now, I buy little above the middle of the pack. Then you can upgrade every few years w/o feeling guilty.