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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
Glitchy #297596 03/21/10 02:43 PM
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Ahhhh! Don't use Audyssey. You are getting to much voltage drop in that wire. Your measurements will be off. Get a Radio Shack meter to calibrate.


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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
Glitchy #297599 03/21/10 02:46 PM
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The receiver is 40' across the house in a rack.

\:o
Don't ever loose your remote.

OK, I didn't read carefully. Steve is probably right.

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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
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The receiver is 40' across the house in a rack.

\:o
Don't ever loose your remote.

OK, I didn't read carefully. Steve is probably right.


The week I got all my first Axioms, my RF remote went south, had to order another and have it overnited so I could set up and play with the speakers. Last Xmas eve, I dropped a RF remote into a big glass of pepsi. HAd to have another Harmony RF remote overnited for sat delivery after xmas day. I'm down about $1k in rf remotes in the last 7 months. Something I didn't fully think out when I decided to build the rack. Knew I'd need an RF, but didn't think about when one isn't working. No TV, no Music, No Movies, No nothing!

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Center:VP150/VP100 in/on
Hghts,SS,SR:QS8s
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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
SRoode #297629 03/21/10 04:17 PM
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 Originally Posted By: SRoode
Ahhhh! Don't use Audyssey. You are getting to much voltage drop in that wire. Your measurements will be off. Get a Radio Shack meter to calibrate.



One more question, I searched and read about 5 articles about SPL setup, some say point in direction of sound at 45 degrees toward ceiling (at each speaker? or just toward the display?), and some say point toward ceiling. Thoughts?

Found my SPL meter off for a battery and a tripod.


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Hghts,SS,SR:QS8s
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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
Glitchy #297643 03/21/10 05:32 PM
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If you haven’t already I wouldn’t bother with a tripod for the Radio Shack meter it’s just not that sensitive. OTOH, a stand can be useful for the Audyssey mic but nothing fancy is needed. I just made a “T-Ball” style stand out of spare wood I had lying around.

I would aim the meter at the ceiling just make sure if you are holding it or standing near is not to stand between the meter and the speaker you’re measuring and don’t breath heavily on it might skew the reading and frankly it‘s a little strange. ;\)

I’m with Steve (Sroode) on the Audyssey issue. I’ve gone back to not using it as I’ve been doing a lot of tweaking and running Audyssey is a pain made even worse by adding height and wide speakers. I just use my Onkyo’s test tones and a tape measurer. I will try Audyssey again once I’ve got everything sounding the best I can without it.

1k on RF remotes. Makes me even happier my IR blasts through the curtains and French doors into the office with my equipment rack.


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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
If you haven’t already I wouldn’t bother with a tripod for the Radio Shack meter it’s just not that sensitive. OTOH, a stand can be useful for the Audyssey mic but nothing fancy is needed. I just made a “T-Ball” style stand out of spare wood I had lying around.

I would aim the meter at the ceiling just make sure if you are holding it or standing near is not to stand between the meter and the speaker you’re measuring and don’t breath heavily on it might skew the reading and frankly it‘s a little strange. ;\)

I’m with Steve (Sroode) on the Audyssey issue. I’ve gone back to not using it as I’ve been doing a lot of tweaking and running Audyssey is a pain made even worse by adding height and wide speakers. I just use my Onkyo’s test tones and a tape measurer. I will try Audyssey again once I’ve got everything sounding the best I can without it.

1k on RF remotes. Makes me even happier my IR blasts through the curtains and French doors into the office with my equipment rack.



Well I got one of those little GorillaPods, wanted one for my camera anyway.

I ran Onkyo setup:

Equalizer:None
Speaker Distance: USed a tape measure
Set crossovers per Docs recommendations:

Front 80
Center 80
Surrounds 80
Rears 90
SW 120

And ran the pink noise setup: Set SW @ 12:00, O phase, SSF: 0ff CO: 120

Here are my new "trims"

Left: -0.5 (W22)
Center: -4.0 (W150 & W100)
Right: -1.5 (W22)
SR: -4.0 (QS8)
SBR +2.5 (QS4)
SBL +2.5 (QS4)
SL: -3.0 (QS8)
SW -.05 (EP500)

Watched some LFE scences, and bumped and SW volume at bit.. watched more and then went back into setup and bumped SW DB to 0.00.

I think I like it much better. Time will tell. (Next I'll have to pick a day to mess with the equalizer settings)

Thanks All


Fronts/Wides:M22s in/on
Center:VP150/VP100 in/on
Hghts,SS,SR:QS8s
Sub:EP500
AVR:Onkyo 3008
Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
Glitchy #297672 03/21/10 09:24 PM
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 Originally Posted By: wordgasm
 Originally Posted By: grunt
If you haven’t already I wouldn’t bother with a tripod for the Radio Shack meter it’s just not that sensitive. OTOH, a stand can be useful for the Audyssey mic but nothing fancy is needed. I just made a “T-Ball” style stand out of spare wood I had lying around.

I would aim the meter at the ceiling just make sure if you are holding it or standing near is not to stand between the meter and the speaker you’re measuring and don’t breath heavily on it might skew the reading and frankly it‘s a little strange. ;\)

I’m with Steve (Sroode) on the Audyssey issue. I’ve gone back to not using it as I’ve been doing a lot of tweaking and running Audyssey is a pain made even worse by adding height and wide speakers. I just use my Onkyo’s test tones and a tape measurer. I will try Audyssey again once I’ve got everything sounding the best I can without it.

1k on RF remotes. Makes me even happier my IR blasts through the curtains and French doors into the office with my equipment rack.



Well I got one of those little GorillaPods, wanted one for my camera anyway.

I ran Onkyo setup:

Equalizer:None
Speaker Distance: USed a tape measure
Set crossovers per Docs recommendations:

Front 80
Center 80
Surrounds 80
Rears 90
SW 120

And ran the pink noise setup: Set SW @ 12:00, O phase, SSF: 0ff CO: 120

Here are my new "trims"

Left: -0.5 (W22)
Center: -4.0 (W150 & W100)
Right: -1.5 (W22)
SR: -4.0 (QS8)
SBR +2.5 (QS4)
SBL +2.5 (QS4)
SL: -3.0 (QS8)
SW -.05 (EP500)

Watched some LFE scences, and bumped and SW volume at bit.. watched more and then went back into setup and bumped SW DB to 0.00.

I think I like it much better. Time will tell. (Next I'll have to pick a day to mess with the equalizer settings)

Thanks All


I have to say .... with adding the rears.. now nine cabinets and 31 drivers in that tiny room (11'w x 10.5 d) it looks like a boston cherry forest in there! I'll have to find a friend with a wide angle lens to show you the true impression.

There is no question what the room is all about!

Last edited by wordgasm; 03/21/10 09:25 PM.

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Sub:EP500
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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
Glitchy #297673 03/21/10 09:43 PM
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How do the QS4s compare to the QS8s?


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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
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They are smaller.


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Re: EP500 - No / Barely any LFEs
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Smartass.


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