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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
Ken.C #297730 03/22/10 01:26 AM
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
If you're looking at a 975, there is absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be looking at a 980x instead. That's a 6 core processor for $999.


Will all software automatically make use of six cores?

Yeah, I figured the power supply upgrade would be a no-brainer.

 Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
When picking out a CPU, there's usually a point where the price jumps up considerably from the previous increases from model to model. I buy the one just below that large jump.

In closing, don't worry too much about the CPU. Put the extra money into some General Purpose Computing accelerator card (or two). I wouldn't bother with the Quadro card either. It's not any faster than the 285, just cost $600 more. If your software says it only works with the Quadro, find other software, because they're charging you too much too.


That was my concern with the CPU. I know that bleeding-edge usually costs $$ and getting something a bit under that is usually the best value. I just wasn't sure if it wouldn't be worth the premium in this case.

I thought that since that Quadro card had the CUDA technology, it would speed things up. Adobe is saying either of the two cards are certified with their Mercury rendering engine, being touted as providing much more real time with Production Premium Suite CS5 coming out next month or so.


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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
MarkSJohnson #297734 03/22/10 01:40 AM
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If the software makes use of 4 cores, it will make use of 6. Or 8. Or 12.

With the 9xx series of i7s, though there are big jumps all through the line. $290 to start, then $550, then $999. I'd say that the 980x at least offers more value for that extra dough than the other jumps. Architecturally, it's also superior, from what I've read.


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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
Ken.C #297735 03/22/10 01:41 AM
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Yeah, I already want to upgrade my CPU. Isn't that sick?

Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
MarkSJohnson #297785 03/22/10 04:09 AM
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Will all software automatically make use of six cores?

That was my concern with the CPU. I know that bleeding-edge usually costs $$ and getting something a bit under that is usually the best value. I just wasn't sure if it wouldn't be worth the premium in this case.

I thought that since that Quadro card had the CUDA technology, it would speed things up. Adobe is saying either of the two cards are certified with their Mercury rendering engine, being touted as providing much more real time with Production Premium Suite CS5 coming out next month or so.

For the most part software which supports multiple threads (anything new and CPU heavy) will count the cores and launch an equal number of threads. Although there were a couple of poorly designed programs which expected the core count to be a multiple of 2, but since AMD and now Intel have 6-core CPUs out, those programs have been fixed.

The only time it's worth paying the premium for the faster CPU is if you're going to make more than the difference back by finishing early.

All recent Nvidia cards support CUDA. Anything from the 8800GT 512 up has excellent CUDA support. The Quadro cards are just Geforce cards with a different name slapped on them, and their price quadrupled because some CAD software used to only certify that line.

While the CUDA acceleration helped some, it's nothing like the speed up gained from the Spurs. Of course the software you're using has to be able to make use of the hardware you have. TMPGEnc uses all 8 CPU cores I have, the CUDA of my 8800GT 512, and the SpursEngine. I get about 5x realtime when encoding video (H.264 1080p24 input being transcoded to MPEG2 3:2 pulldown 480i60), so a 50 minute clip takes 10 minutes to encode. Without the Spurs I was seeing about 1.25x realtime with just the CUDA filtering. As a test without CUDA I get very close to realtime with just the 8 CPU cores from my dual Quad Opterons.


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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
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[pedant] 6 is a multiple of 2 [/pedant]

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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
Ken.C #297807 03/22/10 11:53 AM
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Grrr, I was tired. Power of 2.


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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
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I figured that's what you meant. ;\)


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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
Ken.C #297885 03/22/10 09:39 PM
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Mark, if nothing else, overclocking is fun. I have my EVGA 680i motherboard and 2.4 GHZ Q6600 processor overclocked to 3.2 GHz, but I did have it up to 3.6 GHz, (dropped it because I didn't feel comfortable with the CPU voltage required).

There is quite a lot to know about overclocking, and it's a very methodical process. Thankfully my motherboard/processor combination is quite popular so there were many guides online from well respected overclockers.

I won't choose any other motherboard other than an EVGA, as their forum is extremely helpful and their members will walk you through the entire process.


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Re: New build...Processor/overclocking question
Ya_basta #297890 03/22/10 10:13 PM
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Even if I had decided to do my own build, I don't think I would have started tinkering to that level right off. Reliability is even more important to me than speed and, though I would trust someone else to do it, I wouldn't have had the gumption to do it myself this time around.

I'm ordering the above build tonight. Thanks to everyone for their help and suggestions!

Ken, as I didn't acknowledge the specific suggestion yet, I asked my dealer about the 6-core new CPU and though he's excited about it, evidently it won't be available till next week and I need this system by the weekend... \:\(


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