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#300620 - 04/06/10 04:56 PM Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup
Marius Offline
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I need some buying advice. I am about to buy new speakers for a 7.1 setup and I only want to use Axiom speakers. My room size is long and narrow (in comparison) 15' wide x 34' long and it has an opening in the side that goes into the kitchen. The listening area is about half way through the 34'. I have an Outlaw 970 pre-processor, will have an Emotiva UPA-7 (125w x7) and already own a pair of Axiom 3ti as well as a Parts Express DIY subwoofer. My budget for the remaining components (2 fronts, 1 center, two surrounds) is $1700 - $2000). I plan to buy b-stock from Axiom. It's cheaper and the quality is still great. I use my system 70% for music, 30% for movies. I have not yet delved into multichannel music but imagine myself getting an interest once I have the proper setup.

Specifically, I am thinking of moving my existing 3tis back to use them as rear surrounds, add some M60s to the front, add a V150 as a center, and either one additional pair of 3tis or QS8 as side surrounds right next to my listening position. I will postpone purchase of a subwoofer as I already have one (albeit a small one).

What do you think:
1. Should I use 3tis or QS8 at the side?
2. Are my existing 3tis sufficient in the rear or will I need something beefier? I could, for instance, forego the side speakers for now and instead buy two pairs of M60s (one pair for the front, one for the rear)
3. I take it M80s are really not necessary, and M60s are sufficient in this long room?

Thanks for your advice. Marius

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#300623 - 04/06/10 05:21 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: Marius]
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1. Qs8
2. yes they would be fine for rear channel, actual many prefer direct radiating speakers for rear for music.
3. The m60's would be fine, but for the small increase in cost you may want to consider m80's so you don't get upgradeitis a few months later.

ps: I assume when you say b-stock you are referring to the Factory Outlet speakers? B-Stock usually can include returns, Axiom does not sell returns, they are brand new speakers, so really not B-stock.
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#300624 - 04/06/10 05:31 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: Marius]
BobKay Offline
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Went from 5.1 to 7.1 w/purchase of my M60/500.
I had direct radiating speakers in my 5.1 Prefer the QS8's w/o a doubt.

You, like most of us, are cursed w/ a goofy room size/proportion/layout. The QS8's are very "placement forgiving," which directionals are not.

And, yeah, I'd consider the 80's. Your room is almost double the length of mine. Then again, where are you going to sit, relative to any and all drivers?
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#300631 - 04/06/10 05:52 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: BobKay]
tomtuttle Offline
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 Quote:
1. Should I use 3tis or QS8 at the side?

QS8's for sure.

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2. Are my existing 3tis sufficient in the rear or will I need something beefier? I could, for instance, forego the side speakers for now and instead buy two pairs of M60s (one pair for the front, one for the rear)

M3ti will be great for the rear. M60's would be a stupid amount of overkill.

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3. I take it M80s are really not necessary, and M60s are sufficient in this long room?

Depends on how loud you like it. I'm guessing "regular" ceilings? If so, our rooms are probably comparable in cubic feet, and I honestly never find my M60's wanting.
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#300645 - 04/06/10 06:57 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: BobKay]
Marius Offline
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 Originally Posted By: BobKay

And, yeah, I'd consider the 80's. Your room is almost double the length of mine. Then again, where are you going to sit, relative to any and all drivers?


Thanks, everyone. This confirmed my suspicions \:\) My sitting position is about half way through the room, at about 17' or so. I'll assume that a M60 is sufficient but, you are right, there can never be enough power. My concern is that a Emotiva UPA-7 may not necessarily be able to drive the M80s - there are conflicting reports on the internet. Marius

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#300646 - 04/06/10 07:04 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: Marius]
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Welcome Marius!

That's all I can add that hasn't already been said. \:\)
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#300649 - 04/06/10 07:14 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: RickF]
Adrian Offline
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Loc: It's all about the location.
Marius, where did you plan on mounting your rear surrounds, on the back wall, or ceiling/wall mounted just behind your listening position?
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#300656 - 04/06/10 08:28 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: Marius]
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[quote=Marius] My concern is that a Emotiva UPA-7 may not necessarily be able to drive the M80s - there are conflicting reports on the internet. [quote=Marius] You might want to check around, I had a problem driving the M80s with the XPA-2, but as someone else noted here it seems like the problem with driving the M80s was confined to only certain, but not all, Emo amp models, not sure if the UPA-7 was one of those so afflicted.
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#300657 - 04/06/10 08:30 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: RickF]
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 Originally Posted By: RickF
Welcome Marius!

That's all I can add that hasn't already been said. \:\)

What he said.
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#300658 - 04/06/10 08:57 PM Re: Need Axiom buying advice for 7.1 setup [Re: Adrian]
Marius Offline
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Registered: 04/06/10
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Loc: Olympia, WA
 Originally Posted By: Adrian
Marius, where did you plan on mounting your rear surrounds, on the back wall, or ceiling/wall mounted just behind your listening position?


I plan to mount the rear surrounds on the back wall. Do you think I should mount them closer to the listening position?

Marius
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