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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
CV #308411 05/28/10 12:07 PM
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 Originally Posted By: CV
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Axiom has also claimed to refine the tweeter performance over the years and eventually plans on adding magnetic grilles and completely aluminized cones so all of the mid and bass drivers will appear completely silver.


Tom, was it you who suggested this?


CV, this is quite a mystery. This quote does not appear in this thread.

Were the original words removed as they were referring to a future upgrade?

Or did you simply get it from another thread?

Years ago I posted an image of all silver Axioms, they looked great and I hope that this new "rumour" will be coming true.

If nothing else it was an interesting read.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
FordPrefect #308413 05/28/10 12:10 PM
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It’s a quote from the Audioholics article.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
grunt #308415 05/28/10 12:21 PM
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I'm curious as to how the reviewers might feel about some of these speakers given a longer listening period. When I auditioned some Klipsch speakers, my initial impressions were positive, yet 15-20 min of listening left me fatigued so I moved on to the Energy speakers at the same store. I would have preferred the review to have more trained ears than casual listeners as was the case here.

Thank you for setting up the test and all the time and organizing it must have taken Gene.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
Adrian #308422 05/28/10 01:49 PM
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When I first read about the completely aluminized cones in the article the first thing that came to mind was AV123 and the Rocket speakers. I don't know if Axiom would want that brand association, first impression or reaction from individuals if that implementation would take place. Something to definitely consider.

I have always liked the black dust caps on the white drivers - the traditional look that immediately separates them from the majority of speakers/competition. There is a lot of brand recognition in the classic look of the drivers.

As for the magnetic grills, on all my Axiom speakers that I own the grill mounting is very solid. There is no way that the grills would fall off EVER. Not sure why they would want to change what is perfect already regarding the grills.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
BlueJays1 #308424 05/28/10 02:26 PM
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I would doubt that people would associate Axiom speakers with AV123 just due to a switch to all aluminum woofers. HiVi(maker of AV and Swan woofers) makes many of their drivers sans dustcaps, as does Goldwood and some of Peerless's latest HD line. I would only consider a change in this regard if it improved the sound, otherwise it would be pointless.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
BlueJays1 #308426 05/28/10 02:33 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Dr.House
As for the magnetic grills, on all my Axiom speakers that I own the grill mounting is very solid. There is no way that the grills would fall off EVER. Not sure why they would want to change what is perfect already regarding the grills.

Axiom is adding this feature because it has been requested many times by people who prefer to have their grilles off. Hidden magnets result in a cleaner look than the exposed black rubber grommets. Ian discussed this with the customer council during one of our conference calls and he assures us they're using strong magnets that really hold the grill in place.

Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
grunt #308428 05/28/10 02:54 PM
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 Originally Posted By: grunt
It’s a quote from the Audioholics article.


Thanks for clearing up the "mystery" Grunt, I'm quite hopless if I don't get my morning coffee.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
Adrian #308440 05/28/10 03:36 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
I would doubt that people would associate Axiom speakers with AV123 just due to a switch to all aluminum woofers. HiVi(maker of AV and Swan woofers) makes many of their drivers sans dustcaps, as does Goldwood and some of Peerless's latest HD line. I would only consider a change in this regard if it improved the sound, otherwise it would be pointless.


AV123 actually sold Swan speakers at one point. They share similar 'technology' as well in their designs. I would consider there to be association between the two.

The point I am making is that change might not give the greatest first impression to some and dilutes the brand recognition that has been built over the years in their advertising - changing the "look" of the speaker to the direction that is associated with their competition.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
BlueJays1 #308477 05/28/10 06:44 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Dr House

I have always liked the black dust caps on the white drivers - the traditional look that immediately separates them from the majority of speakers/competition. There is a lot of brand recognition in the classic look of the drivers.


I agree about liking the look of the dust caps but by getting rid of them it eliminates one source (however small) of problems, loose dust caps. I had one vibrating on a brand new M22 though only on one song at a certain passage. Tapping it clearly showed it was loose along part of the edge. Axiom quickly shipped me a replacement but still I imagine if you can eliminate even a small source of problems it pays dividends in the long run.


 Originally Posted By: Dr House

As for the magnetic grills, on all my Axiom speakers that I own the grill mounting is very solid. There is no way that the grills would fall off EVER. Not sure why they would want to change what is perfect already regarding the grills.


I’ve broken all the tabs off one QS8 grill after droping it from about 5 feet. Also broken individual tabs from a couple other QS8s during “drop tests.” ;\) I’ve also broken individual tabs off the grills of one M80 and my EP500 by kicking them with my foot when walking buy. So while the plastic tabs generally work ok they don’t stand up to caveman treatment.

Not sure if my types of experiences have factored into their thinking but based on them I can understand the desire to change.


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Re: Kerpow!! Gotta love a shootout
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 Originally Posted By: FordPrefect

Thanks for clearing up the "mystery" Grunt, I'm quite hopless if I don't get my morning coffee.


I barely caught it myself because I was suffering from the opposite problem of being just about to go to bed.


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