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#312971 - 07/01/10 07:54 AM The most thorough iPhone4 review
terzaghi Offline
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/1

The section discussing the antenna issues are particularly interesting.
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#312987 - 07/01/10 10:15 AM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: terzaghi]
SRoode Offline
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Mines en route from China as we speak. July 7th expected delivery date. I have the 3g (not the 3gs) and since my 2 year commitment has almost expired, I was able to re-commit to get the discounted price. Funny thing is I can sell the 3g for about $125 on E-Bay easily now. I'm trying to convince the wife to give up her old do-nothing phone and use the 3g instead.
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#313004 - 07/01/10 01:21 PM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: SRoode]
terzaghi Offline
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The store near my house still has them in stock (at least they did yesterday). I have a friend that works at ATT and she said they can order them and get them in in a couple of days. My 2yr contract for my iphone 3g doesn't expire until may of 2011, but for some reason ATT says I am eligible for the $199/$299 price on teh iphone4 with a new 2 yr contract. My wife however must wait until January 2011. We bought our phones at the same time so not sure what that is all about.,.. I think it is something to do with primary versus secondary lines on the account.

I'm debating on buying the new phone, or waiting until the next model which addresses the antenna issues. ot sure that it matters really since I'll be slapping a case on it I'm sure.
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#313015 - 07/01/10 02:27 PM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: terzaghi]
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So fanboy here has one. I upgraded from the 3G. In general, reception is MUCH better. In the middle of Silicon Valley on the 4th floor near the window facing Moffet Field, I barely get 1 bar on 3G coverage on an iPhone 3G. (I won't mention that a Blackberry Curve blows this away...) I can't even take calls. W/ the iPhone 4, I can take calls now. I'm right-handed and don't use the death grip, so I'm not prone to the antenna issue. But the issue does exist w/ my phone. I tried the bumper (which I sold the other day after 20 inquiries on CL...), and it does solve the problem. But it's hard to use a dock w/ it. I ended up buying a skin from Gelaskin that also has side skins.

I work in wireless and yes, it's a bit stupid to have the antenna designed this way. I can't say why they made this choice but bear in mind that industrial design trumps EVERYTHING in Cupertino.

Is this a deal killer for me? No because every phone has some problem and this one doesn't affect me that much. It's MUCH faster than my iPhone 3G and there's tons of iPhone-only apps that I use on a daily basis that have become part of my workflow. The screen is beautiful and if you are committed to the Apple ecosystem, stuff just works. The options like the Droid X and Evo are VERY good and could possibly trump the iPhone 4 in many areas (including antenna coverage). But it's hard to ignore the breadth of the app store which is where the iPhone reigns supreme.

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#313019 - 07/01/10 04:39 PM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: oldskoolboarder]
Avi Deshpande Offline
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I have seen 3G phone being sold for about $200 on craigslist.
I had sold my 2G for $250 and now 3G, mostly for the same.

Will get my iphone 4, this week. Wonder when jailbreak will be available though.

BTW, for squeezebox users..the iphone app "iPeng" is awesome to control the music.

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#313025 - 07/01/10 06:41 PM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: Avi Deshpande]
SRoode Offline
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Yeah, I was only 17 months into my 2 year contract and I was eligible for the discount. It surprised me. If I had the 3gs I probably would have waited a bit, but I think the 3g to 4g upgrade will be very noticeable.
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#313031 - 07/01/10 07:38 PM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: SRoode]
terzaghi Offline
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I knew that anyone who had a contract that expired anytime in 2010 was eligible for the upgrade, but I had no idea that a contract expiring in may of 2011 would be eligible.

A buddy of mine has one at work and I played with it for a while. Ran the speedtest.net app simultaneously on 3g with my 3g and his iphone4 and he beat me everytime. (up to double on DL and up to 8-10 times on UL at best.)

Checked with the ATT store and they are all sold out now, but I can order and should get in 7-10 days. Probably will place an order next week if they don't have any in by then.
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#313044 - 07/01/10 08:55 PM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: terzaghi]
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Up until I got this phone (3gs), a cell phone was used to just make calls. I use it for everything now. I can easily surf the web, play my tunes (I hook it up to the house, play the Pandora app and sit outside and listen through the Algonquins), check the weather, etc.

Next app I'm buying will be after I get the new phone... The Slingbox Player. I Sling my stuff from home to me on the road, but to be able to watch my MLB Package on my phone wherever I am is what tech is all about. Plus, it allows you to program your DVR from your phone.
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#313070 - 07/02/10 01:01 AM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: SRoode]
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I also want the Slingplayer. I've been too cheap to spend the $30. I've tried out the new Hulu app. Very nice.

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#313085 - 07/02/10 05:39 AM Re: The most thorough iPhone4 review [Re: oldskoolboarder]
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Quote:
Up until I got this phone (3gs), a cell phone was used to just make calls. I use it for everything now.

Someday, I'm going to have to check to see what phone would be the best replacement for the PDA that I currently have to carry separately. I've never really given a Smart Phone or Blackberry serious consideration, but it's getting old to keep carrying both.
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