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If I told you how much these dogs drink you'd either not believe me or accuse me of animal cruelty.

They LOVE beer and wine. Wine especially. Can't get enough of it. Given the choice between wine or steak, I'm pretty sure the shepherd would choose the wine. (The rottweiler would spin in a circle, staring at both indecisively, until the shepherd had enough time to drink the wine AND eat the steak.)

He's a little bit down on stouts though:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bernreuther#grid/user/19213F2093EA89BB

I may be overthinking things (a common issue that I have) but I'm starting to think that I've lost the ability to judge bass. I'm finding it very hard to determine when bass lingers too long because of bad placement/bad speakers and when it does so because it's just present in the recording.

In just the last ten minutes flicking through songs I've used for evaluations for years I've gone from impressed to disgusted and back with these Polks. On a Knopfler CD I'm not so familiar with but trust as good (based on his history) it sounds merely decent. Jack Johnson songs sound all sorts of boomy, but I know that's his recording. But the low piano note crashing down on Rebecca by Pat McGee Band rings powerful and true not two minutes later. Banjo/bluegrass stuff sounds as clear and accurate up top as it always does, but rock/metal sounds muddy and fatiguing. Maybe that's the recordings though.

Could it be that I'm a terrible judge of sound and have been wasting my money (luckily it hasn't been that much) and parroting the opinions of others?

I think that's entirely possible. I'm going to drag these speakers with me for the M80ti audition I go to just so I can hear things side by side and know for sure what the differences are.

I used to think I had a pretty good ear. I'm starting to doubt that.

Try moving them around a bit. Position is pretty important when it comes to speakers.

I have been. But my concern is that I'm not sure what I'm even hearing (tight bass kicks vs low frequency lasting noise, for instance) or that I'm convincing myself that problems exist where they really don't because I know I'm upgrading soon.

That said, I don't have as much freedom to move them up here as I do downstairs. We're getting a couch for down there delivered on tuesday so I'll have to put these back in that room to see if things start sounding less like being inside a tin can.

Heard M22s and M80/VP180/QS8 today. Was definitely impressed. (But then I came home and was impressed by mine too). The M22s don't have the same range, obviously, but their imaging was spectacular.

I've been saying all along that I don't require a lot of bass, but I'm thinking that I'm more used to my two powered subs built in than I thought.

Anyway, I may still consider the M80s, but the M22 are definitely the clear leader right now. For their price, they're incredible.

Anyone have any experience with the in-cabinets? I ask because I wonder if the fireplace "box" could count as a cabinet. Maybe I could cut a new rectangular white crossing piece for the mantel with the center channel built in. There's no in-wall 150, but there is an in-cabinet. And I think there's enough space back there for it to take the full 6.5" depth.

Bumping up this old thread. We kind of veered off track, but after 8 months I finally ordered and my M22s arrived today (sort of - Fedex left one on the truck and has to come back) and as I suspected, the 5" width of the back rules out just about all of the stand choices I had. The smallest top perch I've seen on an acceptable stand is 6x6.

To recap so you don't need to read all the discussion above, the FMS's triangular base is too large for my space due to the fireplace's base, so I'd like something else (black and metallic).

Does anyone out there have M22s on a non-FMS stand? What brand?

Why does the 5" width on the back rule out other stands? The perch can be wider/longer than the speaker base on all points.

I think that would look pretty weird, having a bit of the perch sticking out.

I might be screwed either way though, since I toe the speakers in.

I caught a northern pike with a bit of the perch sticking out. It indeed looked pretty weird.

How oftern do you look at the stand/speaker perch? I would think it to be only visible while standing up and if you are handy with a grinder and some touch up paint any metal stand can be made to fit. Or make your own wood stands to fit.