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I am in the process of trying to finalize front speaker selection for my 5.1 HT. My room size is rectangular 12x24 w/8ft ceiling. The surrounds that I have already order were QS8s, and the Sub VP350. Now I am torn between the M22v3 or the M60v3. I use the system mostly for TV and Movies and ocassionally I flip on the CD for some Yanni and Fleetwood Mac. I am powering the system with a Onkyo SR-608 and volume setting with my old 1980 Infinity Speakers is set about 50 for TV then I have to switch it up to 65 for movies. Any recommendations on which speaker would perform the best for me or are both equally the same?

Thanks

I'd go with the M60's for a more full range of sonics. However with the Sub you have the M22's will sound very nice. You can't go wrong with either selection, especially for your uses TV's and Movies.

If your application is mostly movies, I would go with the 22s and use the extra $$$ to upgrade the sub. You will end up with a better system for movies thanks to the deeper bass and still have an amazing system for music since many have mentioned that M22s + sub sounds very close to M80s. Axiom subs are "musical" subs, accurate like the rest of their speakers. For movies I would be looking at other manufacturers like SVS, HSU, Elemental designs, etc... For the same price range, you could find a sub maybe not as good as Axiom for music but that would shake your whole house for movies a lot more than the EP350 or EP500.

BD, welcome. The advantage that the M60s would have would be entirely in bass extension and maximum bass loudness. A good sub takes care of the bass extension and provides more loudness capability for the majority of the bass range. The mid-range and treble are handled by the same drivers in both speakers, but note that the M22 has two of the 5 1/4" drivers handling the crucial mid-range, while the M60 uses one. If anything, therefore, the M22 would be able to play the mid-range frequencies a bit more loudly or with lower distortion at the same loudness level. It isn't necessarily true that a tower speaker can "play louder" than a bookshelf model in a large room.

My suggestion would be to go with the M22s plus a good sub.

going with the m22 over the m60's will give you the amount of money you need for an EPP500... actually you will save 61$

the 500, has 200W more, and plays 8HZ lower..

I vote for the M22 + EP500 combo also.

...Ummmm... yeah I dunno if I can recommend an Axiom speaker to have to play Yanni.

Wow, and I thought my musical tastes were diverse. I guess I'm not quite as open minded as I thought I was!

I have the M22, vp150, and qs8 and my room is larger than yours. For movies I sit about 12' back and with a good sub you'll definately be happy with the M22's. I just got last week my M60's as I need more to fill the room for music.

If your looking to keep costs down I would go with the M22 and upgrade the sub. For movies the sub is pretty important to me.

What do you have for a center channel speaker? From what I've heard 3 M22's up front is better if the space allows than 2 M22's and a vp100 or vp150. I didn't have the space so I went with the vp150.

+1 for M22/EP500 over the M60s but I like a more pronounced midrange, this is a subtle difference though.

This is a great thread as I am on the fence between the in-cabinet M60's and the in-wall M22's. Since I'm going with a sub (looking at the EP600 - but open for alternatives) anyway, I like the idea of having more mid-range with the M22's. Anybody out there hear the difference between the 2 I mentioned?

Do the M22's need the same space from the wall as the M60/M80's?

They do not. Just a few inches from the wall should be sufficient. I preferred the bass from my M22s when I had them mounted on the wall with Axiom's Full Metal Brackets. They had the port about 2 - 3 inches from the wall.

M60's sound theatrical, bigger, and impressive for watching movies than the M22's.

I, however, mostly listen to music, and prefer the midrange and clarity of the M22's.

I've been trying to find the biggest/best sound in the smallest package that preferably could be wall mounted.

I was just wondering if anyone has tried, or heard someone else's opinion of mounting M2 above the M50.

Edit: this would stick out 4 inches less than the M60.

I think you just picked Axiom's 2 least popular speakers there.

Interesting.

Is that with or without a properly tuned subwoofer?
How large of a room? How loud?
What type of receiver are you using?

Inquiring minds want to know....

That's true, but think about it. The bass of the M50 and the mids/highs of the M2. This might make a perfect marriage. All in a package small enough to perhaps be wall mountable.

I guess what I'm looking for is something that's almost as good as the M80, yet small enough to be mounted on the wall.

It's called an M60...

Personally, I'm very skeptical of the combine two different speakers for one channel idea. It just seems like asking for impedance, time matching, phase, and other types of trouble.

No the M60 sticks out 4 inches more than the M50. That's a lot when mounting it on the wall in a narrow spot.

Edit: Also paired with the M2 sounds like it would have better highs than the M60 alone.

2" more. 4" more is the M80s.

I'm also not quite sure how you would mount something that's already 13" deep on the wall, with rear ports, and with most of the weight at the front of the speaker.

I've been doing it with bookshelf M22 and on-wall M22 and I haven't noticed any of these problems. I think that M50 and M2 would present even less problems.

Ok. Logistics aside, I just wonder what M50 and M2 (in vertical alignment) sounds like together?

Edit: I'm guessing better than M60, but worse than M80.

Went ahead and just put that review in my signature, since it should be useful to people.

Here's my review of M22's stacked up against M60's for music, movies, with and without subs: http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=190290#Post190290

Enjoy.

Just move the wall back and your golden.

Kidding aside, I'm not so sure the M2s would have all that noticeably better highs. It looks like they both might share the exact same 1" tweeter and the cabinet shape does not come into play nearly as much for tweeters as for the other drivers. The only real difference is a high x-over of 2 KHz for the M60s vs. 2.7 KHz for the M2's, which actually means less highs in the M2 are being produced by the tweeter. (not implying they should be the same, I'm sure they landed on those numbers for good reasons)

But then again, I've never heard an M2 and I'm sure there are a hundred more factors at play, which puts me back to "I'm not so sure" in either direction.

Just thinking out loud, really I guess.

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