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Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... #320920 09/01/10 05:37 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Bethesda, MD Scamp OP old hand OP Scamp old hand Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Bethesda, MD Need a way to really test the high end of your fancy pants speakers, not to mention your hearing? Try playing these " Mosquito" tones. I can clearly hear the 14Khz tone but not the 15Khz. I'm guessing my computer speakers just can't reach 15Khz. It'll be fun to try this on my M22's later today.... M22's x 3, QS8's x 4 SVS PC12-Plus, Denon 3311ci Ear-to-ear grin? Priceless!

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Scamp #320922 09/01/10 05:43 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. With my $5 Walmart earphones on my laptop, I can hear 17khz, and very barely 18khz. I don't want to reveal my age, but I'm somewhere between 46 and 48. Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Scamp #320923 09/01/10 05:46 PM Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,333 Alpharetta, GA a401classic connoisseur a401classic connoisseur Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,333 Alpharetta, GA More like a torture test for one's ears... At 45, I can hear the 15kHz. I can tell there's an annoying something at 16 kHz, but cant really "hear" it. A 27 year old co-worker winced at the 18kHz tone and looked at me oddly whaen I said I couldn't hear it. Scott Scott My HT

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #320924 09/01/10 05:53 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Bethesda, MD Scamp OP old hand OP Scamp old hand Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Bethesda, MD Originally Posted By: Adrian With my $5 Walmart earphones on my laptop, I can hear 17khz, and very barely 18khz. I don't want to reveal my age, but I'm somewhere between 46 and 48. Oh ohh. Perhaps it's not my cheap speakers. I'll have to find a youngster to try this out on. M22's x 3, QS8's x 4 SVS PC12-Plus, Denon 3311ci Ear-to-ear grin? Priceless!

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... a401classic #320925 09/01/10 05:53 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy I can hear the 15hz with my cheap computer speakers turned up all the way, but not the 16-18hz. I guess this is like saying the Super Tweeters would be wasted on me, huh? But I'm pushing 60, so I guess 15hz isn't all that bad. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... a401classic #320926 09/01/10 05:55 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island I heard to the 15kHz, but not beyond. This didn't make sense to me: Quote: It can be used so that people of all ages will hear it. When it is set to 17KHz to the Mosquito will disperse these groups. When set to 8 KHz the Mosquito can only be heard by teenagers approximately 13 to 25 years of age. Seems to me as though those two frequency listings were reversed.... ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... MarkSJohnson #320927 09/01/10 05:56 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. I can only hear 14khz through my laptop. Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... MarkSJohnson #320928 09/01/10 05:56 PM Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,189 Utah, USA dllewel connoisseur dllewel connoisseur Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,189 Utah, USA Or maybe instead of 8 kHz they meant 18 ? -Dave M80s VP150 QS8s EP500s ravenmanor.com/cinema/

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #320929 09/01/10 05:57 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA Originally Posted By: Adrian I don't want to reveal my age, but I'm somewhere between 46 and 48. Ohhhh, that's why it's not 42 for you. Duh.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... dllewel #320930 09/01/10 05:57 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island Maybe... but they should fact-check their own website! ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... MarkSJohnson #320931 09/01/10 05:58 PM Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,189 Utah, USA dllewel connoisseur dllewel connoisseur Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,189 Utah, USA Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson Maybe... but they should fact-check their own website! Agreed. -Dave M80s VP150 QS8s EP500s ravenmanor.com/cinema/

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... MarkSJohnson #320932 09/01/10 06:01 PM Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA ClubNeon connoisseur ClubNeon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA I can hear the 18k just fine. Pioneer PDP-5020FD, Marantz SR6011 Axiom M5HP, VP160HP, QS8 Sony PS4, surround backs -Chris

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... ClubNeon #320934 09/01/10 06:24 PM Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,210 Vero Beach, Florida RickF axiomite RickF axiomite Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,210 Vero Beach, Florida I hear all of 'em with a pair of cheapo PC speakers and a set of 53 year old ears. Rick Our Room

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... RickF #320936 09/01/10 06:29 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Went back and tried the 18khz again, this time with the volume turned up and pressing the earphone to my ear. No prob. Can't be outdone by no 53 yr old ears, no sir! Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #320937 09/01/10 06:30 PM Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,210 Vero Beach, Florida RickF axiomite RickF axiomite Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,210 Vero Beach, Florida Rick Our Room

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... RickF #320938 09/01/10 06:40 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Bethesda, MD Scamp OP old hand OP Scamp old hand Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 84 Bethesda, MD Yup, using headphones I can hear all of them just fine. I guess I need to add the Audiobytes to my Christmas list. M22's x 3, QS8's x 4 SVS PC12-Plus, Denon 3311ci Ear-to-ear grin? Priceless!

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Scamp #320950 09/01/10 07:21 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 233 New Hampshire, USA Henry66 local Henry66 local Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 233 New Hampshire, USA Very interesting. I can hear all the tones, but 16 kHz sounds (to me) like a significantly lower volume than the others. When I got to that one I thought "Uh oh, my hearing has gone down the toilet", but then I could hear 17 and 18 just fine. Age 44, listening on Beyerdynamic HD-990 headphones. Axiom M80s + QS8s + VP180 <-- Pioneer VSX-1120-K <-- Squeezebox Touch / XBox360 / Oppo BDP-93

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Henry66 #320959 09/01/10 08:35 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island I think my computer speakers suck. It couldn't possibly be my ears! ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... MarkSJohnson #320975 09/01/10 09:57 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,422 Winter Garden, FL nickbuol axiomite nickbuol axiomite Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,422 Winter Garden, FL I was able to hear them all on some cheap Logitech headphones. I am closer to 40 than 30... Farewell - June 4, 2020

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... nickbuol #320976 09/01/10 10:00 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,422 Winter Garden, FL nickbuol axiomite nickbuol axiomite Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 5,422 Winter Garden, FL I just went to another web site with even more tones and I could hear 22khz too. 18 and younger it says! Yeah, my ears are just kids! Too bad the rest of me wasn't 18... Farewell - June 4, 2020

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... nickbuol #320982 09/01/10 10:27 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Me too! Noise Addicts. If someone finds a higher freq test, please post. Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #320989 09/01/10 11:13 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy I'm at home and now I can hear the 17k file, whereas at work, the highest I could hear was the 15k file. So, it's what my speakers can reproduce and not what I can hear. I don't have a good method yet of connecting my computer to my avr. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... CatBrat #320990 09/01/10 11:17 PM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. The limiting factor(within reason) is the speaker...my cheap earphones go WAY beyond my laptop speaker. I'll bet I could do 26khz+ if I can find an online test that goes that high. 22khz was easy on the e-phones. Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #321003 09/02/10 12:05 AM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island Adrian, you have girly-ears. ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... MarkSJohnson #321035 09/02/10 02:45 AM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. "ah ah see you gums flappin' bwaaaah, but ah don't hee-ahh anythin!!" Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #321041 09/02/10 04:07 AM Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA ClubNeon connoisseur ClubNeon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA I hear the 22k on that second page, but it doesn't sound like 22k. It sounds like a low-pass filter, and aliasing artifacts. My sound card supports up to 96k (yeah, it's old, but studio quality), so that shouldn't be the limit. It's probably the MP3 encoding. Pioneer PDP-5020FD, Marantz SR6011 Axiom M5HP, VP160HP, QS8 Sony PS4, surround backs -Chris

Re: Tourture test those fancy speakers of yours.... Adrian #321044 09/02/10 04:38 AM Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,654 JohnK shareholder in the making JohnK shareholder in the making Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,654 Adrian, even if you had the "girly-ears" as Mark suggested, there's no way that an actual 22KHz would be "easy" except at an extremely high sound level, considering that hearing is less sensitive at high as well as low frequencies. Possibly Chris's comment should be considered. ----------------------------------- Enjoy the music, not the equipment.