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#327674 - 11/05/10 10:24 PM Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80)
hhp Offline
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Hi,

I am planning to buy the Denon receiver 4810ci for my future Epic 80-500 system.. When I talked to Denon today, they do not recommend this receiver for 4ohm speakers (i.e. M80). Instead, they recommended the 4311ci (which is the ONLY receiver they claimed to be stable for 4ohm speaker).

I am fairly new in this .. Anyone has experience using Denon 4810ci receiver with the M80 speaker? or any other Denon receiver? Please share your experience... Many advance thanks on my end..

Regards,

HHP

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#327675 - 11/05/10 10:29 PM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: hhp]
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Even the Denon receivers in the $300-400 range have been driving M80's with no problem for many years. My 2805 from years ago, and my current 3805ci drive my m80's to levels most don't listen at, and don't break a sweat.

Keep in mind the m80's are well above 4 ohms for most of the frequency range.
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#327678 - 11/05/10 10:43 PM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: SirQuack]
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Agreed. My 2809 has run my M80's(VP150/QS8s) with no issues for close to 2 yrs now.
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#327680 - 11/05/10 11:20 PM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: hhp]
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HH, welcome. The advice from the Denon rep seems a bit nonsensical and possibly biased toward the newer, more expensive, model. All amplifiers are "stable"(if that's supposed to mean that they don't shut down)with a 4 ohm load unless they're driven too loud and too long. The M80s, whose average impedance over the entire frequency range is on the order of 6 ohms and which are slightly above average in sensitivity, are fairly easy to drive and can provide safe listening levels with lesser receivers than the 4310. If you want the 4311 because of some new feature, fine, but don't buy into some line about it somehow being more "stable".
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#327683 - 11/06/10 12:06 AM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: JohnK]
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Just some more evidence, I ran my 1804 and now run a 3808 with M80s no problems with either one. smile

I wonder why the change of heart by Denon with a 43XX series now capable of a 4 ohm rating? They must have increased the P/S, more heat sinks?
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#327688 - 11/06/10 12:36 AM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: hhp]
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My Denon 4310CI is running the Epic 80-500-180 with no problems.
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#327689 - 11/06/10 12:56 AM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: Tico]
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You will have no problems whatsoever. I think denon just wants more of your money. I've been running my epic 80-150-500 system for 3 years with a 3808 without a single problem.


Edited by terzaghi (11/06/10 12:58 AM)
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#327722 - 11/06/10 03:00 PM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: terzaghi]
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Forgot to mention the 43XX series replaced the 38XX series in 2010.
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#327731 - 11/06/10 09:34 PM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: jakewash]
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I've been running 2 x M80s + 1 x VP180 with no problem with my 890.
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#327732 - 11/06/10 09:43 PM Re: Denon receiver for Axiom 4ohm speakers (M80) [Re: bdpf]
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